I would agree, being someone who is interested in deploying CloudStack and
has been following the dev list for a while now to see what the status is,
I wouldn't touch this release with a 10 foot pole. Especially after the
last few build failures I've had. I understand the need to draw the line
but whats the point of a release thats riddled with fun landmines for the
user to step on?


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Marcus Sorensen <shadow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Its the consequence of our anemic testing capability compared to the
> feature set. I don't think we can accept regressions in general at all for
> storage types, hypervisor types, network, etc unless it is due to an
> abandoned feature, otherwise it will be impossible for people to navigate a
> swiss cheese feature set. We will need a matrix showing each release and
> what's broken/working, maybe a helper app that will tell people which
> versions are safe.
> On Sep 9, 2013 11:52 AM, "Animesh Chaturvedi" <
> animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:25 AM
> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.2.0 (fourth round)
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 10:42:48AM -0400, Simon Weller wrote:
> > > > -1 from me as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I know we're trying to hit timed releases, but I think it's very
> > > important to preserve key underlying functionality across releases. If
> a
> > > supported and documented feature is known to be broken, we need to
> > > address it...if we don't, it's going to cause lots of pain, and reflect
> > > badly on ACS as a project.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Agreed.  The idea of "time-based" is all about feature development.
> > > Quality shouldn't be sacrificed.
> >
> > [Animesh>] But we have to draw the line at some point otherwise we cannot
> > maintain a 4 month cadence. 4.3 code freeze is in just 6-7 weeks and this
> > is our 4th VOTE round for 4.2. IMHO if something is in core orchestration
> > layer, failed upgrade, cannot install and the likes and affects most
> users
> > it should block a release. Other remaining issues should be picked up for
> > subsequent maintenance release. May be we should discuss when should be
> the
> > next maintenance release on 4.2, 4 weeks or 6 weeks rather than delaying
> > 4.2.
> >
> >
>



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Thank you,
Matthew Fusaro
Zentific LLC
Developer & Network Engineer

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