and that one:

http://markmail.org/message/kdmvc3frngdki5ho


On Oct 9, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com> 
wrote:

> http://cloudstack.apache.org/docs/en-US/Apache_CloudStack/4.2.0/html/Releas
> e_Notes/upgrade-instructions.html
> 
> 
> On 10/9/13 10:11 AM, "kel...@backbonetechnology.com"
> <kel...@backbonetechnology.com> wrote:
> 
>> We tested deleting the template on primary storage, and it failed to
>> regenerate.
>> 
>> What is the documented method for registering the new template, can you
>> link to it?
>> 
>> It seems many of us failed to find any documentation about updating the
>> template period, not just in the 4.2 release doc under upgrades from 4.1
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from my HTC
>> 
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Ahmad Emneina" <aemne...@gmail.com>
>> To: "dev@cloudstack.apache.org" <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
>> Subject: System VM template caching
>> Date: Wed, Oct 9, 2013 9:48 AM
>> 
>> there might be a more sound way than swapping the template on secondary
>> storage and hacking the db. I figure one should be able to register the
>> template, via the documented route... wait for download to succeed,
>> upgrade
>> the binary bits. then when the system vm's fail to launch. delete the
>> cached template on primary storage. That should be enough to trigger a new
>> system vm propagated to the primary storage. I find it hard to believe
>> this
>> passed QA...
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:39 AM, kel...@backbonetechnology.com <
>> kel...@backbonetechnology.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> This process you mention for registering as a user VM I can't find in
>>> the
>>> upgrade guide. Do you have a link?
>>> 
>>> The work around works because CloudStack defaults to re-download the
>>> system template is it is in NOT_DOWNLOADED status. How ever the database
>>> never gets updated for the life of the build.
>>> 
>>> CS is designed it seems to only ever have a single unaltered template_id
>>> '3' record. And I guess the template download script just overwrites the
>>> sane GUID filename.
>>> 
>>> Seems like a solution that could be handled in a better way.
>>> 
>>> Either way, this is what has been working for us in the community.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my HTC
>>> 
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Sebastien Goasguen" <run...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "dev@cloudstack.apache.org" <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>> Cc: "dev@cloudstack.apache.org" <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>> Subject: System VM template caching
>>> Date: Wed, Oct 9, 2013 9:30 AM
>>> 
>>> Are you sure about this ? I thought we needed to register them as user
>>> vm
>>> and that the upgrade would convert them to systemVM automatically
>>> 
>>> -Sebastien
>>> 
>>> On 9 Oct 2013, at 17:22, "kel...@backbonetechnology.com"<
>>> kel...@backbonetechnology.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I was able to create a work around and several community builders
>>> tested
>>> it out for me and it works.
>>>> 
>>>> I will not submit to docs as it's a hack, but I have updated the JIRA
>>> ticket.
>>>> 
>>>> Work around can be found at:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://cloud.kelceydamage.com/cloudfire/blog/2013/10/08/conquering-the-cl
>>> oudstack-4-2-dragon-kvm/
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> -Kelcey
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my HTC
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>> From: "Soheil Eizadi" <seiz...@infoblox.com>
>>>> To: "dev@cloudstack.apache.org" <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>>> Subject: System VM template caching
>>>> Date: Tue, Oct 8, 2013 9:49 PM
>>>> 
>>>> This seems similar to a problem I had on 4.3 Master with System VM
>>> creation. If it is the same problem you can check from API command
>>> ListTemplateCommand(), from CloudMonkey and see if it returns a bogus
>>> cached value. Then you know it is the same problem.
>>>> -Soheil
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cloudstack-dev/201309.mbox/%3C67
>>> 17ec2e5a665a40a5af626d7d4fa90625e2e...@x2008mb1.infoblox.com%3E
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Kelcey Jamison Damage [kel...@backbonetechnology.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:19 PM
>>>> To: Cloud Dev
>>>> Subject: [ACS 4.2][Upgrade Issue] System VM template caching
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Several of us in the community have found that with the 4.2 upgrade,
>>> when we download and install the latest system VM template, CloudStack
>>> refuses to use this template for new system VM creation. CloudStack
>>> appears
>>> to be usin a cached or master-clone variant of the old template.
>>>> 
>>>> This is causing may KVM+ 4.2 users to have broken clouds, A bug report
>>> has been filed: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-4826
>>>> 
>>>> My question is: Does anyone know where this cached template is stored?
>>> when CloudStack goes to make a new system VM, where does it look first
>>> for
>>> the template? We have observed through testing that this is no secondary
>>> storage.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> 
>>>> Kelcey Damage | Infrastructure Systems Architect
>>>> Strategy | Automation | Cloud Computing | Technology Development
>>>> 
>>>> Backbone Technology, Inc
>>>> 604-331-1152 ext. 114
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