+1.  Anything to move away from "manual" docbook is good!!! Now we won't
have any reasons not to update the documentation if we find bugs in it :S

asciidoc would have been another possibility tho... but reST is fine :)

Francois


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi <
animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com> wrote:

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sebastien Goasguen [mailto:run...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 11:31 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Cc: Radhika Puthiyetath; msweet....@gmail.com; Mike Tutkowski
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][PROPOSAL] Move docs to .rst format and readthedocs
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi <
> animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
> > I am +1 to make documentation easier but we just passed code freeze for
> 4.3 and I feel we need to do it after 4.3.
> >
>
> docs are not in the 4.3 code branch. it's different releases...
>
> Animesh> But they will be released together.
>
> >
> > Animesh
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sebgoa [mailto:run...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 3:54 AM
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Cc: Radhika Puthiyetath; msweet....@gmail.com; Mike Tutkowski
> > Subject: [DISCUSS][PROPOSAL] Move docs to .rst format and readthedocs
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > There has been lots of discussion about docs over the last 3/4 months,
> in summary the issues are:
> >
> > -Difficult to maintain and keep website up to date (issues with lang and
> issues with pdf formatting lately) -Difficult to contribute to easily,
> docbook is fine but tedious to work on.
> > -Errors in the docs don't get properly fixed -Mix of OS information
> -Lack of content for certain features -Docs release cycle. Docs have bugs
> that will never get fixed in that specific release (because we see it as
> code release)
> >
> > To remedy some of those issues and work on a new release process
> specific to docs we moved the docs to its own repo:
> >
> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack-docs.git
> >
> > *I propose that we move away from docbook and use a more readable
> format: restructuredtext*
> >
> > I have worked on a prototype that uses restructured text:
> > http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html
> >
> > This format makes it extremely easy to write docs. Existing docbook
> content could be converted to .rst using a tool like pandoc:
> > http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/
> >
> > *In addition to changing the format I propose that we use
> readthedocs.org*
> >
> > This will help with the release and build of the docs. readthedocs grabs
> the docs from a git repo, builds html, pdf and epub.
> > It can also maintain several releases. We can apply a specific -theme-
> to our docs.
> >
> > See a prototype here:
> >
> > http://cloudstack.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
> >
> > *I propose that we move to this as early as 4.3 documentation*
> >
> > Assuming this proposal passes, we would need to:
> >
> > -re-architect the repo
> > -create the proper cnames to be in accordance with trademark guidelines
> -we can decide what content to keep or not and convert what we keep.
> > -decide how we organize the content
> > -start accepting pull requests (noting that pages can be edited directly
> from github) -make a first release of this new doc site at the same time
> than 4.3 release.
> >
> >
> > Thoughts, flames ?
> >
> >
> > -Sebastien
>
>

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