I agree with John. It's fine as implemented it just wasn't stated clearly in 
the documentation (or the error message) and it appears we have a migration 
path in place for 4.3 when wanting to convert from NFS to S3.

-Aaron

(+ @dev)

Min,

I don't think that the current implementation is a limitation or problem.  
Region-wide storage will impose certain constraints on secondary storage in 
contained zones to satisfy data consistency and reliability requirements.  
Therefore, it seems completely logically that region wide secondary storage 
would prevent the contained zones from defining a potentially conflicting 
secondary storage configuration.

Thanks,
-John

On Jan 8, 2014, at 6:13 PM, Min Chen 
<min.c...@citrix.com<mailto:min.c...@citrix.com>> wrote:

Unfortunately, our current implementation cannot have two zones, one using NFS 
secondary, the other using S3 secondary. We don't support heterogeneous 
secondary storages in a region so far.

Thanks
min

From: Aaron Delp <aaron.d...@citrix.com<mailto:aaron.d...@citrix.com>>
Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 3:10 PM
To: Min Chen <min.c...@citrix.com<mailto:min.c...@citrix.com>>, Tim Mackey 
<timothy.mac...@citrix.com<mailto:timothy.mac...@citrix.com>>, Edison Su 
<edison...@citrix.com<mailto:edison...@citrix.com>>
Cc: John Burwell <jburw...@basho.com<mailto:jburw...@basho.com>>
Subject: Re: Trying to add Amazon S3 to CloudPlatform?

Ahhh – I thought you could only have one type of object storage (swift or S3) 
but you are saying we can only have one kind of secondary no matter the type, 
correct?

Does this apply at the zone level or at the region level? We currently have one 
region, could I create another zone in that region and put S3 as secondary in 
the new region and retain my NFS in the existing region?  In the end could we 
have one region with two zones (one with NFS secondary and one with S3 
secondary)?

Thank you!!!

Aaron Delp
Senior Director Technical Marketing, Cloud Platform Group
aaron.d...@citrix.com<mailto:aaron.d...@citrix.com> / 919-561-7904
blog: aarondelp.com<http://aarondelp.com> / twitter: @aarondelp


From: Min Chen <min.c...@citrix.com<mailto:min.c...@citrix.com>>
Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 6:02 PM
To: Aaron Delp <aaron.d...@citrix.com<mailto:aaron.d...@citrix.com>>, Timothy 
Mackey <timothy.mac...@citrix.com<mailto:timothy.mac...@citrix.com>>, Edison Su 
<edison...@citrix.com<mailto:edison...@citrix.com>>
Cc: John Burwell <jburw...@basho.com<mailto:jburw...@basho.com>>
Subject: Re: Trying to add Amazon S3 to CloudPlatform?

Hi Aaron,

This is the current limitation of our support for using S3 as region-wide 
secondary storage. In a cloud, if you add S3 as a secondary storage, you cannot 
have other zone-wide secondary storage existing, in your case, you already have 
a NFS secondary storage there, so we will prevent you from adding a S3 as 
secondary storage. If you want to use S3 as secondary storage, then you can add 
your NFS as S3 staging store.

Thanks
-min

From: Aaron Delp <aaron.d...@citrix.com<mailto:aaron.d...@citrix.com>>
Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 2:43 PM
To: Tim Mackey <timothy.mac...@citrix.com<mailto:timothy.mac...@citrix.com>>, 
Edison Su <edison...@citrix.com<mailto:edison...@citrix.com>>, Min Chen 
<min.c...@citrix.com<mailto:min.c...@citrix.com>>
Cc: John Burwell <jburw...@basho.com<mailto:jburw...@basho.com>>
Subject: Trying to add Amazon S3 to CloudPlatform?

Edison and Min – We have Citrix Summit coming up next week and we are trying to 
add Amazon S3 backed secondary storage to Tim Mackey's lab (copied).  I reached 
out to John and he helped me understand some things but I'm at a stopping point 
and he suggested you might be able to help out.

We have an NFS share on a NetApp array (/vol/exports/temp) that I can add as 
secondary storage with an NFS type. When I try to add the same scratch area and 
put in all my S3 credentials I get the following error: You can only add new 
image stores from the same provider NFS already added. I don't understand that 
error and I'm not sure how to proceed. It pops up even if I add bogus NFS 
paths. We're on a pretty tight time line and we hoping you might be able to 
lend a hand.

I'm also going to post to the CloudStack User list (this is CCP 4.2 though) and 
see what happens over there.

Thank you!


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