If we have n features, there may be conflict in n! ways. Some of thos
are relatively simple conflicts as these involve only two new
features. Others are potentiatlly very complex as these concern more
then just two features interacting with each other. The worrying thing
about this is that it is a oversimplification of a formula of the
number of way in which things may go wrong in a release. The bottom
line is that having more features in is not an argument to postpone
feature freeze if the release date shifting because of bugs found in a
release is keeping us from releasing. We should not be able to get
more features in the next release. We should be held back to release a
somewhat simpler release next time. So next time we can verify our
release better and/or quicker.

Strangely enough, I don't agree with Alex, but I do agree with what
Lucian takes from his argument. And a weekly release may be a bit of
an overstatement. Only a bit though. At Schuberg Philis we want our
project/employee cloud to be updated that often, so we can spot
problems early and those don't make it to the production cloud. A new
proposal: let's have rc's on a weekly basis and releases on a n month
basis;)  Now ask me about n again, Mike.


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Mike Tutkowski
<mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote:
> Hey Daan,
>
> I'm trying to understand this paragraph:
>
> "with n releases there are n*(n-1) potential conficts of the simlest
> kind and n*(n-1)(n-2) potential conflicts of a slightly mor complex
> kind... The higher n ... do the math. The more we postpone a feature
> freeze the higher n will get. And that is only talking of features.
> not about the simpler fixes that are added."
>
> I'm not following what it means. Can you define what n is? What do you mean
> by a conflict of the simplest kind? Of a slightly more complex kind?
>
> Thanks! I'm just curious what you were referring to here.
>
> Talk to you later!
> Mike
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Steve,
>>
>> As I have suggested before, we shoud not lengthen releas periods but
>> shorten them. I highly object to the idea of enlarging the window and
>> the release. It will pnly make relasing more difficult.
>>
>> with n releases there are n*(n-1) potential conficts of the simlest
>> kind and n*(n-1)(n-2) potential conflicts of a slightly mor complex
>> kind... The higher n ... do the math. The more we postpone a feature
>> freeze the higher n will get. And that is only talking of features.
>> not about the simpler fixes that are added.
>>
>> postponing when we have difficulty releasing quality makes no sense.
>>
>> kind regards,
>> Daan Hoogland
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Steve Wilson <steve.wil...@citrix.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I think it was suggested multiple times that we push out the 4.4 freeze
>> > date because the 4.3 work has been lagging.  I think this is just another
>> > indicator we need to evaluate our release cadence as a community.
>> >
>> > That being said, I don¹t think we want to hold 4.3 any further.  This
>> must
>> > be the best tested RC in the history of software at this point.  Unless
>> > someone finds a new showstopper (that wasn¹t in the previous 6 builds!)
>> > then let¹s get this puppy out! :-)
>> >
>> > -Steve
>> >
>> > On 3/12/14, 10:25 AM, "Mike Tutkowski" <mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>I hate to point this out as I know we've been struggling to get 4.3 out
>> >>the
>> >>door, but this week is probably not a great week to count votes for 4.3
>> as
>> >>it is the last week before 4.4 Feature Freeze.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Wilder Rodrigues <
>> >>wrodrig...@schubergphilis.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi guys and gals,
>> >>>
>> >>> Based on the findings after my first round of tests, I give a +1 to the
>> >>> 4.3 RC
>> >>>
>> >>> Please, find below what I have tested so far:
>> >>>
>> >>> * Environment
>> >>>   - Management Server: Debian 7 VM under VirtualBox
>> >>>   - DevCloud: XenServer 6.2
>> >>>   - MySQL: running on the DevCloud
>> >>>   - System VM: Latest from
>> >>> http://jenkins.buildacloud.org/view/4.3/job/cloudstack-4.3-systemvm/
>> >>>
>> >>> * Initial start-up
>> >>>   - Everything seems to work fine
>> >>>
>> >>> * Zone
>> >>>   - DNS1: 8.8.8.8
>> >>>   - DNS2: 8.8.4.4
>> >>>   - Hypervisor: XenServer
>> >>>   - Guest CIDR: 10.1.2.0/24
>> >>>   - Local Storage enabled: true
>> >>>
>> >>> * Public Traffic
>> >>>   - 10.1.1.1 / 255.255.255.0 / 10.1.1.2 / 10.1.1.100
>> >>>
>> >>> * POD
>> >>>   - 10.1.1.1 / 255.255.255.0 / 10.1.1.101 / 10.1.1.200
>> >>>
>> >>> * VLAN
>> >>>   - 101 - 109
>> >>>
>> >>> * Host
>> >>>   - Host Name: 178.237.34.120
>> >>>   - Username: root
>> >>>   - Password: blah
>> >>>
>> >>> * Secondary Storage
>> >>>   - Provider: NFS
>> >>>   - Name: sec01
>> >>>   - Server: 10.1.1.114
>> >>>   - Path: /opt/storage/secondary
>> >>>
>> >>> ::: ALL GREEN UP TO NOW :::
>> >>>
>> >>> * Create Instance
>> >>>   - Featured: Tiny Linux
>> >>>   - Compute Offering: Tiny Offering
>> >>>   - Disk Offering: None
>> >>>   - Instance name: cs43-01
>> >>>
>> >>> * NIC Information
>> >>>   - IP Address: 10.1.2.186
>> >>>   - Gateway: 10.1.2.1
>> >>>   - Netmask: 255.255.255.0
>> >>>
>> >>> * Create Network
>> >>>   - Name: devcloud-net01
>> >>>   - Type: Isolated
>> >>>   - CIDR: 10.1.2.0/24
>> >>>   - Public IP: 10.1.1.4 [Source NAT]
>> >>>   - Egress Rules: 0.0.0.0/0 - All
>> >>>   - Network Offering: Offering for Isolated networks with Source Nat
>> >>> service enabled
>> >>>
>> >>> * Create ACLs
>> >>>   - 10.1.0.0/16 - TCP - 22 - 22
>> >>>   - 10.1.0.0/16 - TCP - 443 - 443
>> >>>
>> >>> * Create Port Forwarding
>> >>>   - 22:22 - 22:22 - instance cs43-01 [10.1.2.186]
>> >>>   - 443:443 - 443:443 - instance cs43-01 [10.1.2.186]
>> >>>
>> >>> * SSH into the new instance via the Public IP:
>> >>>
>> >>> [root@devcloud-wil01 ~]# ssh root@10.1.1.4
>> >>> The authenticity of host '10.1.1.4 (10.1.1.4)' can't be established.
>> >>> RSA key fingerprint is 02:43:6c:24:c5:79:b6:e2:c8:b7:e8:3c:8d:13:37:91.
>> >>> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
>> >>> Warning: Permanently added '10.1.1.4' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
>> >>> root@10.1.1.4's password:
>> >>> %
>> >>> %
>> >>> % ls
>> >>> ssh-host-dss-key.pub  ssh-host-rsa-key.pub
>> >>> % cd /
>> >>> % ls
>> >>> bin         boot        dev         etc         home        lib
>> >>> lost+found  mnt         proc        root        sbin        sys
>> >>>tmp
>> >>>         usr         var
>> >>> %
>> >>>
>> >>> With kind regards,
>> >>> Wilder
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com]
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:45 PM
>> >>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; Hugo Trippaers
>> >>> Cc: Animesh Chaturvedi
>> >>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round)
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, I can build now.
>> >>>
>> >>> :-)
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards
>> >>>
>> >>> Paul Angus
>> >>> Cloud Architect
>> >>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: CloudyAngus
>> >>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:damoder.re...@citrix.com]
>> >>> Sent: 12 March 2014 10:49
>> >>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; Hugo Trippaers
>> >>> Cc: Animesh Chaturvedi
>> >>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round)
>> >>>
>> >>> HI Paul,
>> >>>
>> >>>  After you pull Hugo changes are you able to build now?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks & Regards
>> >>> Damodar/
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com]
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 2:04 PM
>> >>> To: Hugo Trippaers
>> >>> Cc: Animesh Chaturvedi; dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round)
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes that's correct. I'm building noredist
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> Paul Angus
>> >>> S: +44 20 3603 0540<tel:+44%2020%203603%200540> | M: +447711418784
>> <tel:
>> >>> +447711418784>
>> >>> T: @CloudyAngus
>> >>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com<mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -------- Original message --------
>> >>> From: Hugo Trippaers
>> >>> Date:12/03/2014 07:32 (GMT+00:00)
>> >>> To: Paul Angus
>> >>> Cc: Animesh Chaturvedi ,dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round)
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey Paul,
>> >>>
>> >>> Just to be clear, this problem only occurs during the noredist build
>> >>>right?
>> >>>
>> >>> Mysql HA is one of the noredist features, so it should not be present
>> in
>> >>> the regular build.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm checking the poms now to see if everything is configured correctly.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>>
>> >>> Hugo
>> >>>
>> >>> On 12 mrt. 2014, at 08:14, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > If I manually fix the white spaces I can get past MySQL HA Strategy,
>> >>>but
>> >>> then I hit:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > [INFO]
>> >>> >
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> > -- [INFO] Building Apache CloudStack Client UI 4.3.0 [INFO]
>> >>> >
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > Downloading:
>> >>> >
>> http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/cloudstack/cloud-plugin
>> >>> > -database-mysqlha/4.3.0/cloud-plugin-database-mysqlha-4.3.0.pom
>> >>> > [WARNING] The POM for
>> >>> > org.apache.cloudstack:cloud-plugin-database-mysqlha:jar:4.3.0 is
>> >>> > missing, no dependency information available
>> >>> > Downloading:
>> >>> >
>> http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/cloudstack/cloud-plugin
>> >>> > -database-mysqlha/4.3.0/cloud-plugin-database-mysqlha-4.3.0.jar
>> >>> > [ERROR] Failed to execute goal on project cloud-client-ui: Could not
>> >>> > resolve dependencies for project
>> >>> > org.apache.cloudstack:cloud-client-ui:war:4.3.0: Could not find
>> >>> > artifact
>> org.apache.cloudstack:cloud-plugin-database-mysqlha:jar:4.3.0
>> >>> > in central (http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2) -> [Help 1]
>> >>> >
>> >>> > MySQL HA Strategy seems to need a bit of work.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Regards,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Paul Angus
>> >>> > Cloud Architect
>> >>> > S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>> >>> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com
>> >>> >
>> >>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >>> > From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com]
>> >>> > Sent: 11 March 2014 19:31
>> >>> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> >>> > Cc: Hugo Trippaers; Hugo Trippaers (htrippa...@schubergphilis.com);
>> >>> > Paul Angus
>> >>> > Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> >> From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com]
>> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:35 AM
>> >>> >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> >>> >> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Trying to build 4.3,  the process bombs out for me at MySQL HA
>> >>>Strategy.
>> >>> >> And strangely it seems to be trying to build MySQL from Master
>> >>> >> (4.4.0- SNAPSHOT)?
>> >>> > [Animesh] Ok this came in from Hugo's commit that I cherry-picked
>> >>> >
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack.git;a=commitdiff;
>> >>> > h=472a387d2d828e21aff93a750ed3e178837a1879
>> >>> >
>> >>> > from file plugins/database/mysql-ha/pom.xml This is a  version issue
>> >>> which can be fixed but should not affect functioning. Lets hear from
>> >>>Hugo
>> >>> on this.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > The other errors are formatting issues caught by checkstyle plugin
>> >>>that
>> >>> can be ignored. The Jenkins build is successful.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Ideas anyone?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> [INFO] Apache CloudStack Plugin - MySQL HA Strategy ...... FAILURE
>> >>> >> [1.110s] [ERROR] Failed to execute goal
>> >>> >> org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-checkstyle-
>> >>> >> plugin:2.11:check (cloudstack-checkstyle) on project
>> >>> >> cloud-plugin-database-
>> >>> >> mysqlha: Failed during checkstyle execution: There are 6 checkstyle
>> >>> >> errors. -> [Help 1]
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> [INFO]
>> >>> >>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> >> -
>> >>> >> -- [INFO] Building Apache CloudStack Plugin - MySQL HA Strategy
>> >>> >> 4.4.0- SNAPSHOT [INFO]
>> >>> >>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> >> -
>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >> [INFO]
>> >>> >> [INFO] --- maven-clean-plugin:2.5:clean (default-clean) @
>> >>> >> cloud-plugin- database-mysqlha --- [INFO] Deleting
>> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack-
>> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql-ha/target (includes = [**/*], excludes
>> =
>> >>> >> []) [INFO] Deleting
>> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack-
>> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql-ha (includes = [target, dist], excludes
>> >>> >> =
>> >>> >> []) [INFO] [INFO] --- maven-checkstyle-plugin:2.11:check
>> >>> >> (cloudstack-checkstyle) @ cloud-plugin-database-mysqlha --- [INFO]
>> >>> Starting audit...
>> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack-
>> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql-
>> >>> >> ha/src/com/cloud/utils/db/StaticStrategy.java:54: Line has trailing
>> >>> spaces.
>> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack-
>> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql-
>> >>> >> ha/src/com/cloud/utils/db/StaticStrategy.java:58: Line has trailing
>> >>> spaces.
>> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack-
>> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql-
>> >>> >> ha/src/com/cloud/utils/db/StaticStrategy.java:60: Line has trailing
>> >>> spaces.
>> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack-
>> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql-
>> >>> >> ha/src/com/cloud/utils/db/StaticStrategy.java:110: Line has trailing
>> >>> spaces.
>> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack-
>> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql-
>> >>> >> ha/src/com/cloud/utils/db/StaticStrategy.java:120: Line has trailing
>> >>> spaces.
>> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack-
>> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql-
>> >>> >> ha/src/com/cloud/utils/db/StaticStrategy.java:127: Line has trailing
>> >>> spaces.
>> >>> >> Audit done.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Regards,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Paul Angus
>> >>> >> Cloud Architect
>> >>> >> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>> >>> >> paul.an...@shapeblue.com
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> >> From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com]
>> >>> >> Sent: 11 March 2014 03:00
>> >>> >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> >>> >> Subject: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Hi All,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I've created a 4.3.0 release, with the following artifacts up for a
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> vote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Git Branch and Commit SH:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> https://git-wip-
>> >>> >>
>> us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/4.3
>> >>> >> Commit: ec4db7bbff60f0be96e39f51c0f17b12e0de440c
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> List of changes:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> New Features in 4.3:
>> >>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12325248
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Improvement in 4.3:
>> >>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12325249
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Issues fixed in 4.3
>> >>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12326161
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Known Issues in 4.3:
>> >>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12326162
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Source release (checksums and signatures are available at the same
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> location):
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cloudstack/4.3.0/
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> PGP release keys (signed using 94BE0D7C):
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/cloudstack/KEYS
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Testing instructions are here:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Release+test+p
>> >>> >> r
>> >>> >> o
>> >>> >> cedure
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Vote will be open for 36 hours (Thursday evening PST 8:00 PM)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> For sanity in tallying the vote, can PMC members please be sure to
>> >>> >> indicate "(binding)" with their vote?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> [ ] +1  approve
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> [ ] +0  no opinion
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> [ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)
>> >>> >>
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>> >>*Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>> >>e: mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com
>> >>o: 303.746.7302
>> >>Advancing the way the world uses the
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