It would be great if there's some kind of document in the wiki on this
proposal.

Regards,
Amit
*CloudByte Inc.* <http://www.cloudbyte.com/>


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Tim Mackey <tmac...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you can give me the commit ID for your HEAD, I'll check and see
> what's up.  It could be another conflict needing resolution.
>
> -tim
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:16 PM, sebgoa <run...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Jun 6, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Tim Mackey <tmac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dave,
> >>
> >> I've submitted a merge review request
> >> (https://reviews.apache.org/r/22270/) yesterday.
> >
> > Unfortunately that patch did not seem to apply cleanly. I have not dug
> deep though..
> >
> >> If you want to avoid
> >> having to potentially deal with a bunch of conflicts, you might want
> >> to see if your patches apply cleanly there and let me know.  Happy to
> >> help with any conflict resolution.
> >>
> >> btw, I didn't see a design document up on the
> >> wiki(
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/4.5+Design+Documents
> ).
> >> Can you get one there and start a DISCUSS thread?  It'll probably
> >> tease out some gotchas you might not be aware of.
> >>
> >> -tim
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Dave Scott <dave.sc...@citrix.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Here’s a quick status update:
> >>>
> >>> On 16 May 2014, at 15:22, Dave Scott <dave.sc...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 14 May 2014, at 09:53, sebgoa <run...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Apr 9, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Dave Scott <dave.sc...@citrix.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Following up from Tim's "Support pure Xen as a hypervisor" proposal
> last month[1] I'd like to start working on this and maybe even make a
> little bit of progress while I'm at CCC in Denver.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Helpfully James Bulpin managed to get CS + libvirt + xen to start
> an instance in a simple configuration. Although the patches[2] are not
> intended to be production-ready :) they help highlight some of the areas we
> need to change.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dave, just to let you know that Tim has done some important
> "refactoring" to split up XenServer hypervisor in CS between Xen and
> XenServer. That way we could keep using xapi for XS but start moving to
> libvirt for Xen.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tim worked in the xen2server branch (don't ask about the name, I
> messed it up…:) ).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/xen2server
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Would be nice to see some of the libvirt stuff in that branch to
> handle a new driver for Xen.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since the two hypervisors will be split up, we could still drop in
> some early libvirt patches to handle Xen and put this in 4.5 as a wip.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for the links.
> >>>>
> >>>> I’m slowly building up a set of patches here:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://github.com/djs55/cloudstack/tree/virsh-capabilities
> >>>>
> >>>> I think once I’ve gotten to a stable-ish point I’ll rebase on top of
> Tim’s branch.
> >>>>
> >>>> So far I’ve
> >>>> * changed the hypervisor detection to use ‘virsh capabilities’ in one
> place and ‘cat /sys/hypervisor/type’ in another. Thinking about it again, I
> think it’s probably best to standardise on /sys/hypervisor/type since that
> will succeed irrespective of whether the libvirtd service is chkconfig’d on
> or not.
> >>>>
> >>>> * in the python cloudutils system setup stuff isKvmEnabled() has
> become isHypervisorEnabled()
> >>>>
> >>>> * added a XenLibvirtDiscoverer similar to the LXC one
> >>>>
> >>>> * fixed what I believe is a race in sshExecuteCmdOneShotWithExitCode
> (which seems to hit me every time, I don’t know why other people seem to be
> immune from it): see CLOUDSTACK-6621 and review board request 21261
> >>>>
> >>>> * added the new hypervisor to hypervisor.list and
> system.vm.default.hypervisor, so it appears in the UI properly
> >>>>
> >>>> * registered a system VM template in the database, using the same
> qcow2 image as KVM
> >>>>
> >>>> For my test host I’m using a XenServer nightly snapshot which comes
> with a nice modern xen and kernel, and is easy to install bleeding-edge
> libvirt on top. I had to tweak the kernel configuration and the network
> configuration but I’m hoping to make it work out of the box in future.
> >>>>
> >>>> When I deploy my ‘datacenter’ the discovery phase works, the agent
> connects and looks healthy in the logs and the UI. The next step is to
> figure out why the system VM template isn’t being copied to primary storage
> — for some reason the copy isn’t being attempted but I can’t see any
> obvious reason why.
> >>>
> >>> I’m now at the stage of getting my system VMs to start via libvirt.
> The main missing feature is support for <channels>: low-bandwidth private
> host<->guest control channels. These channels are generally useful things
> and are needed by other projects (like oVirt), so I’d like to add them to
> libxl and libvirt’s libxl driver. There’s a thread on xen-devel and
> libvir-devel if anyone’s interested:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2014-June/msg00180.html
> >>>
> >>> Once the <channels> are sorted, basic VM operations should work. The
> next step would be to rebase my patches on top of Tim’s renaming changes
> and tidy them up for review.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Sebastien
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Some of the areas are:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. hypervisor detection
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Where we currently look for KVM specifically ("lsmod | grep kvm")
> we could switch to either detecting any Linux hypervisor (by reading
> /sys/hypervisor/type) and assuming if a hypervisor is present then we can
> use libvirt on it (is this a fair assumption?) Or we could white-list “kvm”
> or “xen”. Or we could query libvirt directly (perhaps via 'virsh
> capabilities'?)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2. fiddling with the domain.xml
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When starting a domain via libvirt the XML configuration has
> hypervisor-specific stuff in it. Some of this is easy to change like:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <domain type='kvm'>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> obviously becomes
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <domain type='xen'>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <emulator>/usr/libexec/qemu-kvm</emulator>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> should probably be
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <emulator>/some/other/path/qemu-dm</emulator>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Some is a bit more invasive (to the VM) such as the virtual
> hardware type should be switched from "virtio" to "xen" (and the block
> device in Linux will change from /dev/vd* to /dev/xvd*) and we'll have to
> either implement or work around the lack of
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <channel type='unix'> ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -- I presume this is a control channel into the system VM. Perhaps
> we could implement this in libvirt/libxl using vchan?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 3. system VMs?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It would be very convenient if the system VM images could work on
> both xen and KVM. This is probably doable as long as we don't bake in
> virtual hardware specific information (such as /dev/vda) in the image. We
> could use the qcow2 format in both cases. What do you think?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> … and I’m sure there’s more.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyway, feedback would be welcome. If anyone else in Denver wants
> to chat, then come grab me later!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Dave Scott
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [1]
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cloudstack-users/201403.mbox/%3ccajgxtbnbmqtq81ralgh2kma7v5wjyzkr3xnyasmkc_br+uk...@mail.gmail.com%3e
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [2]
> https://github.com/jamesbulpin/cloudstack/commits/jamesb_xen_exploratory
> >>>
> >
>

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