I will hesitate on this "No enforcement" approach in the flow. I bet that
without some kind of enforcement, based on past experience, after one
release, we will come together to discuss flaw in our flow again:) Sorry
if I am too pessimistic on this.
Thanks
-min
On 8/19/14 10:00 AM, "Rohit Yadav" <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On 19-Aug-2014, at 6:48 pm, Min Chen <min.c...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>> In that case, we should call out this procedure
>>
>> If (you¹re a committer) {
>> Go create a hotfix branch and ask RM to pick it up
>> } else {
>> Go upload your patch and get RM to review your request from reviewboard
>> }
>>
>>
>> in your proposal. I don't want people to have a misunderstanding that
>>with
>> this proposal, RM is not needed anymore. Actually, RM is MORE IMPORTANT
>> with this proposal.
>
>Yes.
>
>> Also, we should also call out the enforcement plan for this procedure.
>
>Subjective. All committers have privilege to commit so enforcement will
>be unnecessary, instead if you find an issue with anyone/anything you
>raise it privately or on public dev ML just like we do it now.
>
>> What happens if somebody still directly commits to release branch after
>>it
>> is cut? Ideally, based on this proposal, after RC is cut, we should only
>> see branch merge/cherry-pick done by RM. If not, RM should revert it to
>> enforce the flow.
>
>At RM’s discretion.
>
>Cheers.
>
>>
>> Thanks
>> -min
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/19/14 9:19 AM, "Rohit Yadav" <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> On 19-Aug-2014, at 5:34 pm, Pierre-Luc Dion <pd...@cloudops.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Min for the comment, make sense.
>>>>
>>>> Rohit, how do we plan to managed merge request or submit one? I
>>>>don't
>>>> think using the mailing list to keep track of merge request is good,
>>>> does
>>>> https://reviews.apache.org/account/login/ is keep up to date and all
>>>> merge
>>>> request should go there ?
>>>
>>> If (you¹re a committer) {
>>> Go create a hotfix branch and ask RM to pick it up
>>> } else {
>>> Go upload your patch and get RM to review your request from reviewboard
>>> }
>>>
>>>> What about using Jira to follow merge request ? maybe by having a
>>>> 'merge-request' issue type as sub-task?
>>>
>>> You may do that as long as RMs are okay with that. We don¹t want people
>>> to attack RMs from too many of channels such as reviewboard, jira,
>>> twitter, fb, linkedin and whatnot; sticking to just using email is
>>> recommended.
>>>
>>>> Also I'm a bit confuse for some commit cases:
>>>>
>>>> Let say that I want to fix the release version display in the API doc,
>>>> it
>>>> is not code related right not it show as 4.2.0, it's not a bugfix or a
>>>> new
>>>> feature, so should I create branch + merge request or this type of
>>>> commit
>>>> could be push directly in the release branch (ie: 4.4) ?
>>>
>>> Such cases will ³depend" on your chemistry with the RM, if they¹re cool
>>> you go ahead alongwith them and fix doc/build fixes directly on release
>>> (4.4 in the example) branch.
>>>
>>> This is a reason as to why this proposal is flexible, and it does not
>>> introduce any policing but gives a guideline for people to follow.
>>>
>>> Lastly, checking out branches and working on them using git is not
>>> expensive at all, just few keyboard strokes maybe so just don¹t be
>>>afraid.
>>>
>>> Also, for multiple fixes feel free to do several bugfixes and ask the
>>>RM
>>> to pick the fixes from that (hot/bug) fix branch.
>>>
>>> HTH, cheers.
>>>
>>>> Sorry if I add confusion...
>>>>
>>>> Pierre-Luc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Min Chen <min.c...@citrix.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would rather CI be considered together with this thread, since this
>>>>> thread needs to decide at what condition RM can merge a hotfix/bugfic
>>>>> branch to release branch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> -min
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 8:09 AM, "Pierre-Luc Dion" <pd...@cloudops.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 , CI shouldn't be another topic?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is required or missing to have CI in place?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 5:50 AM, Rohit Yadav
>>>>>> <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 19-Aug-2014, at 11:29 am, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Say you grab a patch from review board and stick it in a hotfix
>>>>>>>> branch,
>>>>>>> test that Šcall for merge on release branch.
>>>>>>>> Do we *merge* to master or can we apply the patch directly to
>>>>>>>>master
>>>>>>> (git am -sŠ) ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once the hotfix branch is merged on release branch, we would merge
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> release branch to master, that will bring the hotfix on master as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We don¹t want to encourage working on master for fixes that qualify
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> release branches directly so ideally we should not git am -s the
>>>>>>> patch
>>>>> on
>>>>>>> master. But there is scope for non-strictness for a situation
>>>>>>>needing
>>>>> git
>>>>>>> am -s <patch> on master directly, it would be at the discretion of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>> RM
>>>>>>> and committers.
>>>>>>>
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