On Sep 2, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote:

> 
> On 02-Sep-2014, at 5:40 pm, Rajani Karuturi <raj...@apache.org> wrote:
>> The right way to do this is to do commit to commit migrations and use some
>> db versioning tools like liquibase or flywaydb which will execute the new
>> change sets. We discussed this before and IIRC, someone started working on
>> it.
> 
> This is not a proposal thread to introduce new tools and I would certainly 
> avoid the “right way to do things” as I’m a fan of iterative development.
> 
> I’m interested in a concrete solution to the concrete issue I raised. Here’s 
> how I will do it:
> 
> - Fix the issue on 4.3.1, cherry pick and get rid of the 4.3.0 to 4.4.0 
> upgrade path
> - Put the db changes in upgrade path from 4.3.0 to 4.3.1, on 4.3 branch
> - Add an upgrade path from 4.3.1 to 4.4.1 on 4.4 branch which counts for the 
> above change
> - On 4.4 branch, in the upgrade (db upgrader) map there won’t be an upgrade 
> path from 4.3.1 for any class except for the map entry where version is 4.3.1
> - Users who upgrade to 4.3.1 can upgrade only to 4.4.1 (they don’t have a 
> choice) and the upgrade path will exist only in 4.4.1 and later releases
> 
> I think if I do the above, no one will have any issue. I’m sharing them to 
> run by you all in case you find any issue?
> 

Or:

#1: we don't release 4.3.1

The main reason that I wanted to do 4.3.1 is to start providing some sort of 
LTS…but maybe our LTS strategy is to move towards rolling upgrades.


>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 20:58 PM, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 02-Sep-2014, at 5:07 pm, Francois Gaudreault <fgaudrea...@cloudops.com
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>> I see. Well, I think we were impacted by that too, and we made the
>> decision to move on 4.4.1-snap (even if it's technically less stable?) and
>> then upgrade to 4.4.1 GA (next week?)
>>> 
>>> I personally don't think pulling back DB changes in lower releases is a
>> good idea :S
>>> 
>>> But that's only my opinion :)
>> 
>> I raised a concrete issue regarding 4.3.1/4.4.1 release and I would like to
>> stick to that only. I understand there are too many numbers, versions and
>> branches to follow, so please if you can try to understand the issue;
>> 
>> This issue — https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-6756 requires
>> that there are some extra columns in the database to do book keeping when
>> delete ips so you don’t actually delete db/table rows.
>> 
>> The issue above is fixed in an upgrade path from 4.3.0 to 4.4.0:
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack.git;a=blobdiff;f=setup/db/db/schema-430to440.sql;h=226260804523c79e3ce3cfa3c407b5ac698d749c;hp=3b525c41a1befd94c5ffc324c357b566606a97d0;hb=ce6a53e;hpb=d0f806b3a486c58b033083fc57f39dd686e31750
>> 
>> But, we already have 4.4.0 release and db upgrade paths are always in the
>> next release versions.
>> 
>> So, there is no upgrade path from 4.3.1 to 4.4.0; as 4.3.1 version does not
>> care about 4.4.0 schema changes. There is only an upgrade path from 4.3.0
>> to 4.3.1. So, the limitation is that people won’t be able to upgrade from
>> 4.3.1 to 4.4.0, because 4.4.0 is already released.
>> 
>> If we release 4.4.1 before 4.3.1, we’ll have the same issue. So, we can put
>> the fix from the JIRA issue on 4.3 branch so the issue is fixed for 4.3.1.
>> The fix will be in the 4.3.0 to 4.3.1 upgrade path. And, if we release
>> 4.4.1 after 4.3.1, we can fix the upgrade path from 4.3.1 to 4.4.1 on 4.4
>> branch such that
>> 
>> The abstract issue is — we’ll have such issue in future, how do we fix it.
>> I suggested — we make a separate tool that does (rolling) upgrades.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Rohit Yadav
>> Software Architect, ShapeBlue
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