Geoff,

I always test upgrades (from whatever versions we have in prod) and no 
problems, but I only run Adv+SG zone..
I can destroy/create system VMs without problem.

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Higginbottom" <geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com>
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 May, 2015 13:28:55
> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.5.1

> For all those of you have voted +1 based on a clean install, if possible 
> please
> test upgrade scenarios including deploying new Isolated networks and new VPCs
> as I have performed three upgrades and all pass the initial upgrade, but then
> fail to add new VRs or new SSVM/CPVMs post upgrade etc
> 
> Regards
> 
> Geoff Higginbottom
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 06 May 2015 13:25
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.5.1
> 
> based on Wilder's testing and my own bringing up a 4.5.1 server in a test env 
> i
> will +1(binding)
> 
> Op wo 6 mei 2015 om 14:23 schreef Geoff Higginbottom <
> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com>:
> 
>> Sorry for confusing the voting thread, I was backing Eriks statements
>> with a '+1' but was not voting for the release - highlights the
>> problem of mixing the threads
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Geoff Higginbottom
>>
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>>
>> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Geoff Higginbottom [mailto:geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com]
>> Sent: 06 May 2015 10:59
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.5.1
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Geoff Higginbottom
>>
>> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
>>
>> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbol...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 06 May 2015 10:44
>> To: dev
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.5.1
>>
>> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Vadim Kimlaychuk <
>> vadim.kimlayc...@elion.ee
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > Geoff,
>> >
>> >         Thank you for explaination. Basically the idea behind that was to
>> > have (for instance) database tier and web-app tier.   Web-apps-tier
>> servers
>> > have to communicate with databases, but databases are closed for
>> > outside world.
>> >
>> The easiest way is to have 2 NICs at web-tier VMs and route inside VM
>> > without need to send all the requests to VPC router.
>>
>>
>> But you're also breaking the tiering. Your database server is now
>> fully accessible from the internet (or wherever you're connected to)
>> through the web servers, and not just the database.
>>
>> The proper way, imho, is to have a firewall between (ie. the VR), and
>> fix the scaling issues instead. That's what you do in the non-cloud
>> world as well, you create two tiers and put a firewall between them.
>>
>> --
>>
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