On Nov 30, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> Sebastien, > > Can you confirm that users can expect to find the noredist build of the rpms > and debs at apt-get.eu ? > I don't know What I understood from Rohit, is that the "shapeblue" repo also contains pkgs that are hot-fixed and have features back ported. In that sense it is quite a different repo than apt-get which only has pkg for each release. > > > > Paul Angus > VP Technology , ShapeBlue Ltd > s: 02036170528 | t: @cloudyangus | m: +44 > 7711418784 > e: paul.an...@shapeblue.com | w: www.shapeblue.com > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HS. UK > > Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue > Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under > license from Shape Blue Ltd. 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Please contact the sender if you > believe you have received this email in error. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] > Sent: 30 November 2015 10:24 > To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Package Repositories > > +1 all the way, sebastien > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Nux! <n...@li.nux.ro> wrote: > > > +1 your categories. > > > > Also +1 for the unified thing under cloudstack.apache.org domain. > > > > -- > > Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! > > > > Nux! > > www.nux.ro > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "sebgoa" <run...@gmail.com> > > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > > Sent: Monday, 30 November, 2015 10:08:59 > > > Subject: Re: Package Repositories > > > > > Hi folks, we need to resolve this. > > > > > > 1-But I have to start with one comment: > > > Apache open office releases binaries, users don't compile from source. > > So it is > > > possible within ASF to officially release binaries. > > > > > > 2-We have several initiatives around repos, apt-get.eu (Wido), > > shapeblue repos, > > > Nux mirrors and image templates. > > > Seems everyone agrees we need a tag team to coordinate all of it and > > offer a > > > unified front. > > > > > > 3-This unified front is great, but it won't happen this week, it > > > will > > take time > > > and dedication. > > > > > > 4-The small issue we are facing is about 3 lines in an HTML file on > > > our > > website. > > > Pierre-Luc and I had a chat Friday, in one of his comments on the PR > > > he suggested that we list 3 categories: > > > > > > - source > > > - community repo > > > - 3-rd party repo > > > > > > I am +1 with this, why ? > > > > > > -source is a no brainer > > > - community repo (apt-get) because that's our defacto pkg repo even > > though we > > > don't vote on packages. There was not vote to say these were our > > community repo > > > but that's a fact. Several people have access to the machine and can > > > make updates etc... > > > - 3rd party, allows us to list vendor pkg repo. The more vendors > > > provide CloudStack the better. I see it a bit like the "books" > > > discussions we had couple years ago. We do not endorse them, but we > > > should promote them. > > > > > > In our docs however, we should not be referencing 3rd party repos, > > > and > > any URLs > > > should be cloudstack project specific. > > > > > > Can you please reply with your vote on these 3 categories. I think > > > it's a compromise that helps us move forward. > > > > > > -sebastien > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 27, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Daan Hoogland > > > <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Paul Angus > > >> <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Doesn't that meant that we'll have to vote on the source and the > > packaged > > >>> rpms/debs otherwise they we have no official community standing. ? > > >>> > > >> I am not sure how we can give them official standing yet but we > > >> are the apache foundation, so we vote on source. I would say we > > >> vote on the packaging software from a different repo then the > > >> core+plugins and automatically update a repo from that one. The > > >> repo will not be endorsed but the way it is filled will be. > > >> > > >> my €0,02 of future dreams > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] > > >>> Sent: 27 November 2015 09:36 > > >>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > > >>> Subject: Re: Package Repositories > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Paul Angus > > >>> <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> So. My understanding is that to make the packages in the repo > > 'official' > > >>>> they must be voted on. -- would we make the packages what we > > >>>> vote on, rather that the source code (bearing in mind you can't > > >>>> separate the > > >>>> packaging in that case). IMHO, it'll make testing a whole lot > > simpler > > >>> for > > >>>> folks if there is just no requirement to build from source. > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> We will not stop voting on the source! Any vote on -, or > > >>> otherwise handling of packages is a separate thing. > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > > > Daan > > > > > > -- > Daan > Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services > > IaaS Cloud Design & Build<http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//> > CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> > CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/> > CloudStack Software > Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/> > CloudStack Infrastructure > Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> > CloudStack Bootcamp Training > Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> > > This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended > solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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