Github user ProjectMoon commented on the pull request:

    https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/1492#issuecomment-209875708
  
    > @ProjectMoon correct resource naming is critical to the proper operation 
of the management server. We have had a significant bugs and production issues 
caused by subtle changes to resource naming strategies between releases where 
CloudStack suddenly can't find a resource on the device it is attempting to 
control. 
    
    > Have you performed any upgrade testing for this PR? If so, what tests 
have you performed in which configurations?
    
    We have not specifically performed any upgrade testing. Our current stable 
version is based on 4.7.1, and essentially our "upgrade testing" has consisted 
of deploying 4.7.1 before and after our development of this feature is 
complete. The configuration has been tested with KVM, VmWare, and the 
simulator. 
    
    > Also, could you please add an FS to the wiki and start a conversation on 
dev@? Given the importance of resource naming, it would be extremely helpful to 
have an explanation of the design and its operation.
    
    As far as I know, I don't have access to the wiki. Otherwise I would add to 
it. Do I need to register a separate account or can I use my Apache JIRA 
account?
    
    > @ProjectMoon we'll need more information on why you're doing this, why we 
should have it, what is fixes and will it guarantee backward resource-name 
compatibility (for example, vmware vms have this strictly tie up with internal 
ACS vm name, such config are set in each vmware's VM's annotations) and upgrade 
paths
    
    * **Why we are doing this**: we implement our own naming scheme for the 
supported resources. On our 4.2 branch we hacked this in, but now we want to 
present a framework that we can extend, and open the possibilities to other.
    * **Why should mainline have this**: More flexibility for developers, 
easier testing (static classes notoriously cause problems), a unified way to 
generate names (DRY principle).
    * **What it fixes**: It doesn't _fix_ anything per se, but the refactoring 
helps move us towards a cleaner codebase.
    * **Backwards compatibility**: The default plugin generates names and UUIDs 
in the exact same way as before, so yes.
    
    VmWare is an interesting case though. Can you describe in more detail/point 
me to where this stuff happens so I can verify that custom naming plugins will 
not break it?


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