Alright, i have it running on one of my fast bbls. I will keep you posted...
*Will STEVENS* Lead Developer *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote: > thanks, I will see in my backlog if any PR is up for my next try. > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> > wrote: > >> I will get that PR in one of my Bubbles today to see if I have problems. >> >> *Will STEVENS* >> Lead Developer >> >> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts >> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 >> w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ >> >> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Rohit, the connector installs from epel and the mysql repo does not >>> contain the python connector. I think we are not talking about the same >>> problem. >>> >>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I am now trying 1297, for the third time today. >>>> next to the rpm-build error, I had an error in building the UI and it >>>> just stopped with the rpm-build error again. >>>> I did go to master in the bubble scripts. I had to re-add the java7 >>>> conf and change the config to use the cloudstack section. Other than that >>>> it seems to work. The rpm-build error arose before going to the head of the >>>> bubble branch, so I don't think it is related to the bubble itself. >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Can you send me the error you are getting? Also, are you testing >>>>> against 4.7, 4.8 or master? >>>>> >>>>> *Will STEVENS* >>>>> Lead Developer >>>>> >>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts >>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 >>>>> w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Daan Hoogland < >>>>> daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> H Will, I don't want to break your mojo on this other bughunting but >>>>>> do you see any rpm packaging errors concerning mysql-connector? >>>>>> I added the repo for mysql to find out the connector was already >>>>>> installed. >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW this is only one of four to five intermittent errors I'm getting. >>>>>> Hardly any run succeeds. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. I did a clean setup in 6 CI environments. With these PRs in >>>>>>> place all 6 had the addHost issue. I reverted and did a clean setup >>>>>>> again >>>>>>> and all 6 came up perfectly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am using bubble on commit 9134cf8be930d0b982829da216471feaf214621f >>>>>>> to test. I create the CS and KVM instances and then check out the code >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> deploy (two script in bubble). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once ACS is up and running it does a DeployDC and it fails at this >>>>>>> point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can test your PR and send you the logs. >>>>>>> On May 17, 2016 12:40 AM, "Rohit Yadav" <bhais...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Will, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Alright, I've reopened a PR with the changes that were reverted to >>>>>>>> be reviewed/tested separately again. Can you share if you're able to >>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>> your CI env working again after the revert? >>>>>>>> Can you share in detail how may I reproduce the issues you get that >>>>>>>> you think are because of Nio related changes, so I can try to fix them. >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Will Stevens < >>>>>>>> wstev...@cloudops.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would be running these commands: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> git revert 540d9572fd491db3ce182d26636fc74ada4e171c (1543) >>>>>>>>> git revert f88cb880974fa56866492c437af291e40bd1a4f6 -m 1 (1538) >>>>>>>>> git revert 9f970f28b18534dffe33196ead60ea861f501fa9 -m 1 (1534) >>>>>>>>> git revert 7ce0e10fbcd949375e43535aae168421ecdaa562 -m 1 (1493) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS* >>>>>>>>> Lead Developer >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts >>>>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 >>>>>>>>> w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Will Stevens < >>>>>>>>> wstev...@cloudops.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think I am going to have to revert #1493 ( >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/1493) because it seems >>>>>>>>>> to be responsible for the `addHost` issue I am having in all my CI >>>>>>>>>> environments while doing DeployDC. On completely new deployments, I >>>>>>>>>> got >>>>>>>>>> the `addHost` error on all 6 of my CI environments with #1493 >>>>>>>>>> included. I >>>>>>>>>> have noticed this as an intermittent issue for the last while, but >>>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>> not isolate it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have reverted #1493 (and it's descendants) locally and I have >>>>>>>>>> not had the error in my first 3 tests after reverting it. I only >>>>>>>>>> started >>>>>>>>>> seeing the problem after #1493. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> With the freeze basically here, I need my CI environments in >>>>>>>>>> action cause I have a few PRs that I really want to run before I >>>>>>>>>> merge and >>>>>>>>>> freeze... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS* >>>>>>>>>> Lead Developer >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts >>>>>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 >>>>>>>>>> w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Will Stevens < >>>>>>>>>> wstev...@cloudops.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I mean revert them locally to test (for now)... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS* >>>>>>>>>>> Lead Developer >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts >>>>>>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 >>>>>>>>>>> w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Will Stevens < >>>>>>>>>>> wstev...@cloudops.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am getting it more than not right now. I am concerned we >>>>>>>>>>>> have a bigger issue here. It only started happening for me after >>>>>>>>>>>> #1493 >>>>>>>>>>>> went in, but I don't want to blame it on that without knowing for >>>>>>>>>>>> sure. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I will revert those ones and see if it changes >>>>>>>>>>>> anything... :( >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS* >>>>>>>>>>>> Lead Developer >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts >>>>>>>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 >>>>>>>>>>>> w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Daan Hoogland < >>>>>>>>>>>> daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, I'm having the same thing. I need to restart the kvm1 vm >>>>>>>>>>>>> to have it be >>>>>>>>>>>>> able to connect to the ms. It seems intermittent. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Will Stevens < >>>>>>>>>>>>> wstev...@cloudops.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > I am currently running into an issue in DeployDC that I >>>>>>>>>>>>> started getting on >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thursday or Friday. I am not sure if it is a bubble issue >>>>>>>>>>>>> or an issue with >>>>>>>>>>>>> > ACS. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > I am trying to get it sorted out now... >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > ==== Deploy DC Started ==== >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Exception Occurred :['Traceback (most recent call last):\n', >>>>>>>>>>>>> ' File >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "/data/git/cs1/cloudstack/tools/marvin/marvin/deployDataCenter.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>>>>>> > 142, in addHosts\n ret = >>>>>>>>>>>>> self.__apiClient.addHost(hostcmd)\n', ' File >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/marvin/cloudstackAPI/cloudstackAPIClient.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>> > line 1530, in addHost\n response = >>>>>>>>>>>>> > self.connection.marvinRequest(command, >>>>>>>>>>>>> response_type=response, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > method=method)\n', ' File >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/marvin/cloudstackConnection.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>>>>>> > 379, in marvinRequest\n raise e\n', >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'CloudstackAPIException: Execute >>>>>>>>>>>>> > cmd: addhost failed, due to: errorCode: 530, >>>>>>>>>>>>> errorText:Unable to add the >>>>>>>>>>>>> > host\n'] >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Exception Occurred :['Traceback (most recent call last):\n', >>>>>>>>>>>>> ' File >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "/data/git/cs1/cloudstack/tools/marvin/marvin/deployDataCenter.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>>>>>> > 142, in addHosts\n ret = >>>>>>>>>>>>> self.__apiClient.addHost(hostcmd)\n', ' File >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/marvin/cloudstackAPI/cloudstackAPIClient.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>> > line 1530, in addHost\n response = >>>>>>>>>>>>> > self.connection.marvinRequest(command, >>>>>>>>>>>>> response_type=response, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > method=method)\n', ' File >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/marvin/cloudstackConnection.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>>>>>> > 379, in marvinRequest\n raise e\n', >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'CloudstackAPIException: Execute >>>>>>>>>>>>> > cmd: addhost failed, due to: errorCode: 530, errorText:Guid >>>>>>>>>>>>> is not updated >>>>>>>>>>>>> > for cluster with specified cluster id; need to wait for >>>>>>>>>>>>> hosts in this >>>>>>>>>>>>> > cluster to come up\n'] >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > ===deploy dc failed, so cleaning the created entries=== >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > *Will STEVENS* >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Lead Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts >>>>>>>>>>>>> > 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 >>>>>>>>>>>>> > w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Daan Hoogland < >>>>>>>>>>>>> daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > I understoud the request to try it out. I have #1547 >>>>>>>>>>>>> running once again >>>>>>>>>>>>> > now >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > and will try Remi's new version with the next one i'll run. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Will Stevens < >>>>>>>>>>>>> williamstev...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > Sorry. My phone decides to write whatever the hell it >>>>>>>>>>>>> wants to. I need >>>>>>>>>>>>> > to >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > proof read everything on my phone. You can probably >>>>>>>>>>>>> understand my >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > previous >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > email though. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > On May 16, 2016 12:32 PM, "Will Stevens" < >>>>>>>>>>>>> williamstev...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Remi and I have been discussing this. I suggested we >>>>>>>>>>>>> implement an >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > override >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > system so she could reuse lost of the code, but be >>>>>>>>>>>>> able to override >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > files >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > specific to cosmic and cloudstack without impacting >>>>>>>>>>>>> each other. Remi >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > implemented this concept and asked me to verify it is >>>>>>>>>>>>> working as >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > expected, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > but I didn't want to push my luck with the freeze so >>>>>>>>>>>>> close and I had >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > working bubbles. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > I think the recent changes are going to help mitigate >>>>>>>>>>>>> issues going >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > forward, but I have not had a chance to validate yet. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > On May 16, 2016 12:27 PM, "Daan Hoogland" < >>>>>>>>>>>>> daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> trying that one but I think we need to add that repo >>>>>>>>>>>>> to the cs >>>>>>>>>>>>> > system >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > in >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> or >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> before the build script. Also this is not the last >>>>>>>>>>>>> (HEAD) of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > master >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> branch of the bubble. I saw some cosmic specific >>>>>>>>>>>>> changes. We have >>>>>>>>>>>>> > some >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> challenges on the road ahead. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Will Stevens < >>>>>>>>>>>>> > wstev...@cloudops.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > Daan, I am using bubble commit >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > 9134cf8be930d0b982829da216471feaf214621f >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > things seem to be working. Let me know if that is >>>>>>>>>>>>> not working for >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> you... >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > *Will STEVENS* >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lead Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Daan Hoogland < >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > daan.hoogl...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Thanks Rohit, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > I did try the manual install on the build host >>>>>>>>>>>>> but that didn't >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > help. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> I'll >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > have a look at the extra yum repo to add later. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Rohit Yadav < >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > I checked this again today, with the recent >>>>>>>>>>>>> changes wrt rpm >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > deps/packaging >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > the mysql-connector-python is not availble in >>>>>>>>>>>>> default CentOS >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > repositories >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > therefore we'll need to modify documentation to >>>>>>>>>>>>> install it >>>>>>>>>>>>> > from >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> MySQL >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > yum >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > repos: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/repo/yum >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > Rohit Yadav >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > Rohit Yadav >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > www.shapeblue.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4HSUK >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > @shapeblue >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > On May 16 2016, at 8:37 am, Rohit Yadav < >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > Daan, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > mysql-connector-python was recently added as a >>>>>>>>>>>>> pure-python >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> dependency, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > can >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > you try to install that on your host system and >>>>>>>>>>>>> retry rpm >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > building. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > ________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > From: Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > Sent: 15 May 2016 14:34:49 >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > To: dev >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > Subject: old error back? >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > anybody else seeing this in the bubble or >>>>>>>>>>>>> during rpm build? >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > ``` >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > error: Failed build dependencies: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > mysql-connector-python is needed by >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > cloudstack-4.9.0-SNAPSHOT.el7.centos.x86_64 >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > RPM Build Failed >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > ``` >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > Daan >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > Rohit Yadav >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > www.shapeblue.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4HSUK >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > @shapeblue >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Daan >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> Daan >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Daan >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Daan >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Daan >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Daan >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Daan >>> >> >> > > > -- > Daan >