I don't know if your date projections are any good but +1 to the overall
ideas you pose here ,John. As was mentioned in the other thread I would
include API refactor in one of the two (5- or 6.0.0)

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 2:39 AM, John Burwell <[email protected]>
wrote:

> All,
>
> We have been discussing whether or not the next release would introduce
> the need to increment the major revision number from 4 to 5 (i.e. become
> 5.0.0).  While I think we are very close to the time to have a 5.0.0
> release, I don’t think the next release will introduce any backwards
> compatible changes that necessitate.  However, Wido has brought two
> important questions — What are our goals for a 5.0.0 release? When do we
> think we should target its release?  I think we should address and gain
> consensus on these issues now rather than allow circumstances to answer
> them for us.
>
> Since I joined the community (back in the 4.1.0 days), 5.0.0 was a
> mythical, someday release when CloudStack would have a perfect
> architecture, build process, etc. -- a unicorn jumping a rainbow.  I
> realize that I have fallen into the trap of seeing 5.0.0 as some endpoint
> of perfection rather than an important milestone in the on-going
> improvement and evolution of the project.  Thinking it about is the former
> rather than the later, I realize that we have a legacy cruft that we need
> to discard in order to move forward and architectural design improvements
> that we must implement to address emerging infrastructure requirements.  I
> think we would be wise to separate these two objectives into a 5.0.0
> release (cruft removal/breaking refactorings) and 6.0.0 (backwards
> incompatible architectural redesign).  Not only do I see this approach as a
> risk mitigation, but also as a way to deliver improvements to users and
> developers as quickly as possible.
>
> For 5.0.0, my thought is that we would target the following high-level
> objectives:
>
> * Drop Java7 and adopt Java8 runtime and language features
> * Drop support for any hypervisor versions no longer supported by their
> vendors or communities
> * Drop any plugins which are no longer maintained or for which the
> community has no means to test
> * Drop support for any distributions no longer supported by their vendors
> or communities
> * Define an official support matrix for the project
> * Adopt a formal policy for sunsetting support of components based on the
> end-of-life dates set by their vendors or communities
> * Refactoring/cleanup of various APIs
> * Embedded Jetty/uberjar/unified YAML file configuration
>
> While I am sure there are more clean up items, the focus of the release
> would be to discard pieces that are in the way on further improvement.
>
> 6.0.0 would be released within 9-12 months of 5.0.0 — giving the community
> time to build atop 5.0.0 to redesign/improve the architecture of the system.
>
> I would like to see 5.0.0 released by the end of 2016 or at the beginning
> of 2017.  Based on the release plan I previously proposed, we would have
> the following releases remaining in 2016 and in early 2017:
>
> * 4.10 releasing on or about 28 August 2016
> * 4.11 releasing on or about 23 October 2016
> * 4.12 releasing on or about 18 December 2016
> * 4.13 release on or about 5 February 2017
>
> 4.12 seems to be the sweet spot in the schedule to cut the 5.0.0 release
> described above.  It would give us sometime to plan and gain consensus
> around the changes in both the user and dev communities.  It would also
> allow the second LTS release to be based on 5.0.0 — allowing both release
> cycles to take advantage of the reduced support requirements and Java8
> language features. Based on this proposal, the releases above would change
> to the following:
>
> * 4.10 releasing on or about 28 August 2016
> * 4.11 releasing on or about 23 October 2016
> * 5.0.0 releasing on or about 18 December 2016
> * 5.1.0 release on or about 5 February 2017
>
> 6.0.0 would be targeted for release in 4Q2017 — providing 9-12 months to
> design and implement architectural improvements.
>
> Thoughts?  Other paths to 5.0.0 and beyond?
> -John
> [email protected]
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>
>
>


-- 
Daan

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