This one does look nice. My biggest concern is the lack of VXLANs. It seems 
that any of the ones we mentioned do not have an API so we may be stuck at the 
SSH method.

Regards,
Marty Godsey
nSource Solutions

-----Original Message-----
From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:abhinandan.prat...@shapeblue.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 2:26 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Replacing the VR

Cloudrouter looks promising. These have potential to save future engineering 
effort for example on ipv6 routing, OSPF etc.
And the best part is they come with test automation framework.





On 13/09/16, 4:22 PM, "Jayapal Uradi" <jayapal.ur...@accelerite.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Instead of replacing the VR in first place we should add VyOS/cloudrouter as 
>provider. Once it is stable, network offerings (on upgrade) can be updated to 
>use it and we can drop the VR if we want at that release onwards.
>
>VR is stabilized over a period of time and some of them are running without 
>issues.  When we replicate the ACS VR features in new solution it takes some 
>to find the missing pieces (hidden bugs).
>
>Thanks,
>Jayapal
>
>> On Sep 13, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Nux! <
>
>> n...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I like the idea.
>> 
>> Cloudrouter looks really promising, I'm not too keen on VyOS (it doesn't 
>> have a proper http api etc).
>> 
>> --
>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>> 
>> Nux!
>> www.nux.ro
>> 
>> 
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----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Will Stevens" <williamstev...@gmail.com>
>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> Sent: Monday, 12 September, 2016 21:20:11
>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Replacing the VR
>> 
>>> *Disclaimer:* This is a thought experiment and should be treated as such.
>>> Please weigh in with the good and bad of this idea...
>>> 
>>> A couple of us have been discussing the idea of potentially 
>>> replacing the ACS VR with the VyOS [1] (Open Source Vyatta VM).  
>>> There may be a license issue because I think it is licensed under 
>>> GPL, but for the sake of discussion, let's assume we can overcome any 
>>> license issues.
>>> 
>>> I have spent some time recently with the VyOS and I have to admit, I 
>>> was pretty impressed.  It is simple and intuitive and it gives you a 
>>> lot more options for auditing the configuration etc...
>>> 
>>> Items of potential interest:
>>> - Clean up our current VR script spaghetti to a simpler more 
>>> auditable configuration workflow.
>>> - Gives a cleaner path for IPv6 support.
>>> - Handles VPN configuration via the same configuration interface.
>>> - Support for OSPF & BGP.
>>> - VPN support through OpenVPN & StrongSwan.
>>> - Easily supports HA (redundant routers) through VRRP.
>>> - VXLAN support.
>>> - Transaction based changes to the VR with rollback on error.
>>> 
>>> Items that could be difficult to solve:
>>> - Userdata password reset workflow and implementation.
>>> - Upgrade process.
>>> 
>>> The VyOS is not the only option if we were to consider this approach.
>>> Another option, which I don't know as well, would be CloudRouter 
>>> (AGPL
>>> license) [2] which is purely API driven.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, would love to hear your thoughts...
>>> 
>>> Will
>>> 
>>> [1] https://vyos.io/
>>> [2] https://cloudrouter.org/
>
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