As a little correction to what I said, I meant to ask if there is a way in 4.10 
to run system VMs without using noredist for the build as I only have KVM hosts 
in this particular environment.

This does seem to work fine in 4.5, so it appears something has changed since 
that release in this regard.

> On Oct 11, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Tutkowski, Mike <mike.tutkow...@netapp.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rajani,
> 
> I actually ended up getting diverted to other work and am just coming back to 
> this now. ☺
> 
> Do you know if there’s a way in 4.10 to run the KVM agent without needing the 
> noredist option? In this environment, I only have KVM hosts.
> 
> I recently tried this in 4.5 and it worked fine without having to do anything 
> special. It seems something has changed since 4.5 here.
> 
> Thanks!
> Mike
> 
> On 8/22/16, 12:43 AM, "Tutkowski, Mike" <mike.tutkow...@netapp.com> wrote:
> 
>    I can try that. Thanks, Rajani!
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 12:17 AM, Rajani Karuturi <raj...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Did you build and run it with noredist option?
>> 
>> I see this CNF error when I forget to run jetty with noredist
>> option.
>> 
>> ~ Rajani
>> http://cloudplatform.accelerite.com/
>> 
>> On August 18, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Tutkowski, Mike
>> (mike.tutkow...@netapp.com) wrote:
>> Based on the error message of not being able to find the
>> PremiumSecondaryStorageResource class, this seems to be the
>> following error (#9 on this
>> page: 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/SSVM,+templates,+Secondary+storage+troubleshooting):
>> 
>> SSVM agent not running - You see error something like below. Most
>> probably your systemvm didnt get patched with the agent specific
>> code. This patching happens through the ISO - something
>> like systemvm***.iso. Check the size and location of the iso and
>> whether you are not using the old version iso. For XS its on the
>> host so grep for it and for vmware its on secondary storage. Do
>> also check that if its vmware that you built your ssvm using
>> noredist flag for mvn command. For more information check
>> SystemVm.iso
>> 2013-12-20 13:35:12,954 DEBUG [cloud.utils.ProcessUtil]
>> (main:null) Execution is successful.
>> 2013-12-20 13:35:12,960 ERROR [cloud.agent.AgentShell]
>> (main:null) Unable to start agent: Resource class not found:
>> com.cloud.storage.resource.PremiumSecondaryStorageResource due
>> to: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
>> com.cloud.storage.resource.PremiumSecondaryStorageResource
>> 
>> I do see the ISO, though, on secondary storage here:
>> 
>> cloudstack@cloudstack-virtual-machine:/export/secondary/systemvm$
>> ls -l
>> total 83420
>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 cloudstack cloudstack 85420032 Aug 15 16:10
>> systemvm-4.10.0-SNAPSHOT.iso
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Tutkowski, Mike <mike.tutkow...@netapp.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 8:17 AM
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Issue with SSVM on KVM on master
>> 
>> In /var/log/cloud/cloud.out, I see the following repeated over
>> and over again (below).
>> 
>> I'm running version 4.10.0 of the management server (but the
>> implementation version of the agent looks to be 4.9.0). I do have
>> systemvm-4.10.0-SNAPSHOT.iso accessible at
>> /export/secondary/systemvm (/export/secondary is my one and only
>> secondary storage at the time being).
>> 
>> 2016-08-18 14:03:43,633 INFO [cloud.agent.AgentShell]
>> (main:null) Agent started
>> 2016-08-18 14:03:43,637 INFO [cloud.agent.AgentShell]
>> (main:null) Implementation Version is 4.9.0
>> 2016-08-18 14:03:43,637 INFO [cloud.agent.AgentShell]
>> (main:null) agent.properties found at
>> /usr/local/cloud/systemvm/conf/agent.properties
>> 2016-08-18 14:03:43,643 DEBUG [cloud.agent.AgentShell]
>> (main:null) Found property: instance
>> 2016-08-18 14:03:43,643 DEBUG [cloud.agent.AgentShell]
>> (main:null) Found property: resource
>> 2016-08-18 14:03:43,643 INFO [cloud.agent.AgentShell]
>> (main:null) Defaulting to using properties file for storage
>> 2016-08-18 14:03:43,645 INFO [cloud.agent.AgentShell]
>> (main:null) Defaulting to the constant time backoff algorithm
>> 2016-08-18 14:03:43,666 INFO [cloud.utils.LogUtils] (main:null)
>> log4j configuration found at
>> /usr/local/cloud/systemvm/conf/log4j-cloud.xml
>> 2016-08-18 14:03:43,686 INFO [cloud.agent.AgentShell]
>> (main:null) Using default Java settings for IPv6 preference for
>> agent connection
>> 2016-08-18 14:03:43,687 DEBUG [cloud.agent.AgentShell]
>> (main:null) Checking to see if agent.SecStorage.pid exists.
>> 2016-08-18 14:03:43,694 DEBUG [cloud.utils.ProcessUtil]
>> (main:null) environment.properties could not be opened
>> 2016-08-18 14:03:43,703 DEBUG [cloud.utils.ProcessUtil]
>> (main:null) Executing: bash -c echo $PPID
>> 2016-08-18 14:03:43,711 DEBUG [cloud.utils.ProcessUtil]
>> (main:null) Execution is successful.
>> 2016-08-18 14:03:43,726 ERROR [cloud.agent.AgentShell]
>> (main:null) Unable to start agent: Resource class not found:
>> com.cloud.storage.resource.PremiumSecondaryStorageResource due
>> to: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
>> com.cloud.storage.resource.PremiumSecondaryStorageResource
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Tutkowski, Mike <mike.tutkow...@netapp.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 7:54 AM
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Issue with SSVM on KVM on master
>> 
>> Thanks for the comments, Simon.
>> 
>> I went ahead and tried to telnet into 8250 on my management
>> server (first from the SSVM and then from another machine). In
>> both cases, this was the result:
>> 
>> telnet 192.168.129.50 8250
>> Trying 192.168.129.50...
>> Connected to 192.168.129.50.
>> Escape character is '^]'.
>> Connection closed by foreign host.
>> 
>> It looks like a connection was established, but then shortly
>> after closed. Is this what you were expecting might happen?
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Simon Weller <swel...@ena.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:39 AM
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Issue with SSVM on KVM on master
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> I wonder whether this could be related to the NIO connection
>> improvements. We saw this type of problem quite a bit when we
>> were testing it (with all types of agents). Typically you'll see
>> the agent logs indicating they can't connect to the management
>> server if this is the case. Try telnetting to 8250 on your mgmt
>> server and see if suddenly your agent starts to work.
>> 
>> - Si
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Tutkowski, Mike <mike.tutkow...@netapp.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 6:04 PM
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Issue with SSVM on KVM on master
>> 
>> I should have pointed out that this is a Basic Zone. Also, there
>> is only one KVM host in my one cluster.
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Tutkowski, Mike <mike.tutkow...@netapp.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 5:03 PM
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Issue with SSVM on KVM on master
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am trying to build a cloud making use of KVM system VMs.
>> 
>> My SSVM VM comes up, but its agent doesn't seem to:
>> 
>> http://imgur.com/a/Fo2ax
>> [http://i.imgur.com/xdP9alM.jpg?fb]<http://imgur.com/a/Fo2ax 
>> ( http://i.imgur.com/xdP9alM.jpg?fb%5D<http://imgur.com/a/Fo2ax )>
>> 
>> Imgur: The most awesome images on the
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>> 
>> Thoughts on what might be going on here?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Mike
> 
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