Also, the default templates are bad defaults. For example, "CentOS 5.3(64-bit) no GUI (XenServer)" is severely out of date and is probably riddled with hundreds of critical vulnerabilities. We should treat our community as informed choosers and point them to - well known / frequently updated builds (e.g., http://dl.openvm.eu/cloudstack/) - instructions on how to build default templates (e.g., using Packer https://www.packer.io/docs/builders/qemu.html )
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am all for the change, but urge you to consider this: > - past releases are still in use and will be affected > - it would be good to decouple the release of the management server from > the release of the templates. So, let's say there is a new 'SHELLACK' bug > in bash which needs an update to the systemvm template -- today that > requires a new CloudStack release to address it. Instead, it would be nice > if you could just update the systemvm and builtin templates and ask people > to re-run some scripts. > > A solution that would automate something like this: https://shankerbalan. > net/blog/seed-cloudstack-templates-offline/ would solve for most cases. > > Instead of download.cloud.com in the blog post, you would have <mirror > list>. > > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 5:56 AM, John Burwell <john.burw...@shapeblue.com> > wrote: > >> Chiradeep, >> >> I am +1 to using a mirror list downloaded from >> downloads.cloudstack.apache.org via https only (i.e. >> https://downloads.cloudstack.apache.org/mirror.lst). This approach >> seems to be a common approach employed by other Apache projects that need >> to provided downloadable assets. Therefore, I would imagine it would be >> something ASF Infra would be able to support. >> >> It also seems like we should have a hashes of a assets hosted on >> downloads.cloudstack.apache.org in order to allow users to verify that >> mirror has not been corrupted. >> >> Anyone opposed to targeting this change for the next round of releases -- >> 4.9.2.0, 4.10.1.0, and 4.11.0.0? >> >> Thanks, >> -John >> >> >> john.burw...@shapeblue.com >> www.shapeblue.com >> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London VA WC2N 4HSUK >> @shapeblue >> >> >> >> > On Nov 1, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > I believe that there is already a new site, but the software still >> points >> > to download.cloud.com. There was also discussion about >> > - building mirror sites instead of a SPOF site >> > - eliminating the automatic download of templates and updating the >> > documentation on use of offline templates. >> > Older releases may not be changed, but users need to be notified and >> > documentation needs to be updated and publicized. >> > >> > Thread here: >> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cloudstack-dev/2016 >> 05.mbox/thread?4 >> > >> > We should ask for the download.cloud.com site to be taken offline for >> 24 >> > hours to see how many people scream, perhaps then the community will >> swing >> > into action? >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Rajesh Ramchandani < >> > rajesh.ramchand...@accelerite.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Are we looking for new server to host this site? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 12:46 PM -0700, "Chiradeep Vittal" < >> >> chirade...@gmail.com<mailto:chirade...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Bumping this. Any progress on this? download.cloud.com is not an >> Apache >> >> property and is subject to the whims of its owner (Citrix). >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Any progress on this? There's nearly a 100K downloads of systemvm >> >>> templates from download.cloud.com per month. Would be a shame to >> leave >> >>> these folks stranded. >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> > >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> +1. we need to figure out the way forward, but this needs to be done >> >>>> 'right' not just 'fast'. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> >>>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com> >> >>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK >> >>>> @shapeblue >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>> From: Raja Pullela [mailto:raja.pull...@accelerite.com] >> >>>> Sent: 31 May 2016 07:33 >> >>>> To: CloudStack Dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> >> >>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from download.cloud.com >> >>>> >> >>>> +1, hope we will be able to discuss this at the Collab this week and >> >>>> decide on the next steps. >> >>>> >> >>>> best, >> >>>> Raja Pullela >> >>>> Senior Manager, Product Development >> >>>> Accelerate, >> >>>> 2055,Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA >> >>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com,@accelerite<http://www. >> >> accelerite.com,@accelerite> >> >>>> >> >>>>> On May 31, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Chiradeep Vittal < >> chirade...@gmail.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I hope this gets discussed during the CloudStack Collab over the >> next >> >>>>> few days. Again, I'd urge everybody to consider: "what if >> >>>>> download.cloud.com went away next week". Waiting till some >> >>>>> hypothetical last date only means that we will scramble a week >> before >> >>>> that last date. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Chiradeep Vittal >> >>>>> <chirade...@gmail.com> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Yes, the mirror site would be on github or apache.org >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Step 6 in the install guide would have instructions like: >> >>>>>> a. Install System VM Templates: >> >>>>>> <here, cloud-install-sys-tmplt has been modified to use the mirror >> >>>>>> list> b. Installing other templates cloud-install-tmplt >> >>>>>>> enter OS (linux only) >> >>>>>>> Ubuntu 16.04 >> >>>>>> ....Installing... >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Or, step (b) could generate a cloudmonkey script. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Will Stevens < >> wstev...@cloudops.com >> >>> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Cant we just host the mirror list in apache.org and then actually >> >>>>>>> host the mirrors in different places around the world? A company >> >>>>>>> could sponsor the few bucks a month for AWS and have one of the >> >>>>>>> mirrors be in AWS and the mirror list in apache.org would just be >> >>>>>>> updated to add the AWS mirror. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Isn't that basically what we are proposing here? The ability to >> >>>>>>> have different mirrors with the 'official' endpoint being in an >> >>>>>>> apache.org endpoint to list the mirrors? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> *Will STEVENS* >> >>>>>>> Lead Developer >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts >> >>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com >> *|* >> >>>>>>> tw @CloudOps_ >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Daan Hoogland >> >>>>>>> <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> is there no way, within foundation bylaws, to host this somewhere >> >>>>>>>> on apache.org? we are using peoples wibesites for tests as well, >> >>>>>>>> aren't >> >>>>>>> we. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < >> >>>>>>>> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> We could host a mirror here. We are in South America, Brazil. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < >> >>>>>>> chirade...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I was proposing a new S3 bucket earlier >> >>>>>>>>>> (templates.cloudstack.org), >> >>>>>>>> but >> >>>>>>>>> I >> >>>>>>>>>> realized that someone needs to own the account. There is no >> legal >> >>>>>>>> entity >> >>>>>>>>>> for Apache CloudStack (except the ASF) that can enter into a >> >>>>>>> contract >> >>>>>>>>> with >> >>>>>>>>>> AWS (even if it is for a few bucks a month). To make this >> work, >> >>>>>>>>>> alternatives: >> >>>>>>>>>> (1) ASF Infra creates this bucket and IAM keys to the PMC to >> >>>>>>> operate >> >>>>>>>>> this >> >>>>>>>>>> bucket. ACS users might want to make targeted donations to >> >>>>>>>>>> support >> >>>>>>> this >> >>>>>>>>>> bucket, but I don't believe that it is possible. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> (2) Cloudstack.org gets registered as a (non-profit?) entity >> etc >> >>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>> ACS >> >>>>>>>>>> users make donations to this entity. PMC has control over the >> >>>>>>> bucket. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> A mirror list and a python script (e.g., [1]) sounds like a >> much >> >>>>>>> better >> >>>>>>>>>> idea :) >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Raise of hands: >> >>>>>>>>>> Who is willing to host a mirror of systemvm templates and >> default >> >>>>>>>>>> templates. I figure we need at least 5, preferably all over the >> >>>>>>> world, >> >>>>>>>>>> especially in East Asia. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> [1] >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> http://code.activestate.com/recipes/284631-a-python- >> >> script-to-test-d >> >>>>>>> ownload-mirrors/ >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Chiradeep Vittal < >> >>>>>>>> chirade...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Agree with Daan : we shouldn't be pushing these ancient >> insecure >> >>>>>>>>>>> templates! >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Chiradeep Vittal < >> >>>>>>>>> chirade...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> :) According to Raja, there is some time before >> >>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>> is >> >>>>>>>>>>>> doomed. Let's pretend that date is Jan 1 2017. Now pretend >> that >> >>>>>>> it >> >>>>>>>> is >> >>>>>>>>>> Dec >> >>>>>>>>>>>> 25, 2016 and we're still debating mirror list vs steps and >> what >> >>>>>>> not. >> >>>>>>>>>> Now, >> >>>>>>>>>>>> just change the 2017 to 2016 and re-consider. We need this >> done >> >>>>>>>>>> yesterday! >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Daan Hoogland < >> >>>>>>>>> daan.hoogl...@gmail.com >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> send by tablet, no warranties in existence On 20 May 2016 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:29, "Paul Angus" <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a -1 on adding another step to the installation >> process. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Will, it will only be another barrier to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> adoption. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The SSVM going and downloading the built-in template is a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> good >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> milestone >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in a CloudStack build. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be honest the mgmt. server should be able to go get the >> >>>>>>>> template >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> itself if required rather than making it a user installation >> >>>>>>> step. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> great idea, looking forward to your PR. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 May 2016 23:06 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from >> >>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds good, so if we put both sections together the worry >> is >> >>>>>>>> over. >> >>>>>>>>>> acs >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is a complex system and requires a lot of reading so let''s >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> not >> >>>>>>> put >> >>>>>>>>> it >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> different section. would be duplicate code anyhow. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> chirade...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you have to define "worry" :) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing an almost identical step to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack- >> >> installation/e >> >>>>>>> n/ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.6/management-server/#prepare-the-system-vm-template >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can do that, then it is not a stretch to assume >> they >> >>>>>>>> can >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download the default template in a similar manner. The >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "cloud-install-default-template" (proposed) script can do >> >>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>> mirror >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checking etc. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Will Stevens < >> >>>>>>>>>> wstev...@cloudops.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I definitely agree with this. I don't think people doing >> >>>>>>> a >> >>>>>>>> PoC >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to worry about getting a template installed on first >> >>>>>>> setup. >> >>>>>>>> I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> think >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is a basic feature if we want platform adoption. >> >>>>>>>> Getting >> >>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first boot process from download to first VM launched >> >>>>>>> should >> >>>>>>>> be >> >>>>>>>>>> as >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smooth as >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS* >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lead Developer >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w >> >>>>>>>> cloudops.com >> >>>>>>>>>> *|* >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tw @CloudOps_ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Daan Hoogland >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chiradeep, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes sense not to have this old default very >> >>>>>>> insecure >> >>>>>>>>> guest >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still be downloaded but it would be nice to have some >> >>>>>>> kind >> >>>>>>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meta-data pointing to the latest version of an >> >>>>>>> acceptable >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> template >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (symlink) for trial installs so PoCcers are swiftly on >> >>>>>>>> their >> >>>>>>>>>> way. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you agree? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chirade...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I meant the auto-download of default templates, not >> >>>>>>>>> systemvm. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that the initial systemvm template has to be >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hand-downloaded >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are a single hypervisor cloud, then that is all >> >>>>>>>> that >> >>>>>>>>>> is >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion < >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pd...@cloudops.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be -1 about disabling the autodownload of >> >>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> systemvm >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has this should be simplify deployment of a >> >>>>>>> cloudstack >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> system. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> although, the download URL should be a configurable >> >>>>>>>>> value, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property file or thru the API somehow or via a >> >>>>>>>>> pre-install >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> command. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really like download.cloudstack.org + mirror. >> >>>>>>> I'm >> >>>>>>>>>> looking >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DNS entry: builds.cloudstack.org for the new >> >>>>>>> Jenkins >> >>>>>>>>> and I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> got >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no objections on using the cloudstack.org domain >> >>>>>>> for >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> community >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> services >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty sure we would be ok to use >> >>>>>>>>> download.cloudstack.org, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting this up? on the current webserver of our >> >>>>>>>> website? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could we >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PL >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Giles Sirett < >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sir...@shapeblue.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erik >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree on the existing users - not the end of the >> >>>>>>>>> world. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release a tiny patch to update the DB records >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The piece that we need to be really careful with >> >>>>>>> is >> >>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I've >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded cloudstack thing for the first time" >> >>>>>>>>> scenario >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But - there seems to be plenty of good ideas >> >>>>>>> flowing >> >>>>>>>> on >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giles >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sir...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com< >> >> http://www.shapeblue.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N >> >>>>>>> 4HSUK >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbol...@gmail.com] >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 May 2016 09:32 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a user (with old ACS installations) I'd say >> >>>>>>> that >> >>>>>>>>> this >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troublesome, this is easily fixed by updating the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate db >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> records. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We should ensure that we have some good posts >> >>>>>>>>> discovered >> >>>>>>>>>> by >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other search engines, so that when somebody >> >>>>>>> running >> >>>>>>>> old >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installations >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hit >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this issue they find the workaround. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a lot of time to reach out to users and >> >>>>>>>> inform >> >>>>>>>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fix necessary. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erik >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Giles Sirett < >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sir...@shapeblue.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a MAJOR problem and needs to be figured >> >>>>>>> out >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> before >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download site is removed - @Raja - have Citrix >> >>>>>>>>>> committed >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another year ? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is my understanding that Cloudstack relies on >> >>>>>>>> this >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build/startup and then periodically if people do >> >>>>>>>>> things >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zone >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, users environments aren't going to stop if >> >>>>>>> its >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> pulled, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a able to build/install cloudstack and >> >>>>>>> it >> >>>>>>>>> may >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when users make config changes >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is, for new builds, its hard coded : >> >>>>>>>> you >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> start >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sec >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Storage VM, CloudStack will try to download the >> >>>>>>>> built >> >>>>>>>>>> in >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My understanding is that its simple db change >> >>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>> make >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once an >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is running (exisiting users) but *may* require a >> >>>>>>>> code >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial install >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #notideal >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really, this should be maintained by ASF/ the >> >>>>>>>> project >> >>>>>>>>>> as >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> key >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software working, however my understanding is it >> >>>>>>>>>> involves >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binaries >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASF is never keen on (and may be some 3rd party >> >>>>>>>>>> binaries) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - so >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wont happen >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apt-get is controlled by Wido et al (for which >> >>>>>>> we >> >>>>>>>> all >> >>>>>>>>>> owe >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> massive >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks) - but you are right, it is a 3rd party >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> dependency >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arguably a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SPOF. But, if ASF wont host binaries, we're >> >>>>>>> always >> >>>>>>>>>> going >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we could patch the code to point somewhere >> >>>>>>>> else - >> >>>>>>>>>> but >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definition its got to be something maintained >> >>>>>>> by a >> >>>>>>>>> 3rd >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We had this debate some time ago when talking >> >>>>>>> about >> >>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repositories. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ShapeBlue) maintain a repo for our customers, >> >>>>>>>> which >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wev'e >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opened >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as public. However, there were concerns about >> >>>>>>>> having >> >>>>>>>>> a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domain >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which I understand) - so apt-get became our >> >>>>>>>>> preferred >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> repo. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts on how to fix this: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. if ASF would allow us to create the host >> >>>>>>> entry >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloudstack.org. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its under their domain, but with the site being >> >>>>>>>> with >> >>>>>>>>> a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be allowed >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. maybe Citrix could commit to pointing the >> >>>>>>>> current >> >>>>>>>>>> DNS >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entry >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location (would be simplest but may be legally >> >>>>>>>>> complex >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relies >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ongoing goodwill) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. make a mod to allow users to choose the >> >>>>>>> download >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location on >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can then maintain apt-get. To remove the >> >>>>>>> SPOF, >> >>>>>>>> we >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> could >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> templates copied to a number of 3rd party >> >>>>>>> locations >> >>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choose which one they use >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giles >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sir...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com< >> >> http://www.shapeblue.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N >> >>>>>>> 4HSUK >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: williamstev...@gmail.com [mailto: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williamstev...@gmail.com] >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Will Stevens >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 18:59 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Ian, yes, but I think there is more to it than >> >>>>>>>> that. >> >>>>>>>>>> We >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going forward and we can move everything from >> >>>>>>> there >> >>>>>>>>>> over >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domain. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe the problem is with all of the >> >>>>>>> existing >> >>>>>>>> ACS >> >>>>>>>>>> or >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CCP >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installs >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there currently pointing at the >> >>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>> URL, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> so >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down, those installs have to be updated. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I don't understand exactly, but that is >> >>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impression I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from this thread. Can this be confirmed? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS* >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lead Developer >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 >> >>>>>>> w >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudops.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *|* >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tw >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @CloudOps_ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Ian Rae >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <i...@cloudops.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, who controls apt-get.eu and given >> >>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (rather >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerning) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level of dependency on the operation of the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it not make sense to use a domain that is >> >>>>>>> under >> >>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whose alignment with CloudStack will not >> >>>>>>> shift. I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitate to implicate the red tape of Apache >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but perhaps the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fabled >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack alliance organization would be a >> >>>>>>> good >> >>>>>>>>> way >> >>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long term. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Raja Pullela >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <raja.pull...@accelerite.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trust me, it won't be go away overnight. We >> >>>>>>>> are >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requested them to keep it active for another >> >>>>>>>> year. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have the content copied over (I will >> >>>>>>>> work >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wido >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verify >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this) to cloudstack.apt-get.eu and update the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (user >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides update and create a wiki to show how an >> >>>>>>>>>> existing >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can fixed to point to new URLs) we don't have >> >>>>>>> a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependency >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on " >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com" - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right? sorry, if I am missing something here? >> >>>>>>>>>> Please >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> let >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development >> >>>>>>> Accelerite, >> >>>>>>>>>> 2055, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com< >> >> http://www.accelerite.com>, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/16, 9:38 PM, "Paul Angus" < >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Raja, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May I humbly suggest that someone at >> >>>>>>> Accelerite >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> speaks >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how long the content will remain on >> >>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simply losing the content on >> >>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overnight >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone look bad >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com< >> >> http://www.shapeblue.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London >> >>>>>>> WC2N >> >>>>>>>>> 4HSUK >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Raja Pullela >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:raja.pull...@accelerite.com] >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 16:44 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content >> >>>>>>> from >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are right, this change impacts both >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudPlatform customers. Not sure, if I >> >>>>>>>> understand >> >>>>>>>>>> you >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move away from "download.cloud.com" is >> >>>>>>>>> permanent. I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long the content on download.cloud.com will >> >>>>>>> be >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> up/available. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Based on Wido's availability, we can get >> >>>>>>> rest >> >>>>>>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu, hopefully, by this >> >>>>>>> week ? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com is left as is and will >> >>>>>>> stay >> >>>>>>>> as >> >>>>>>>>> is >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decides on what to do with it. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development >> >>>>>>> Accelerite, >> >>>>>>>>>> 2055, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com< >> >> http://www.accelerite.com>, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/16, 6:36 PM, "Paul Angus" < >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As this effects every copy of CloudStack >> >>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudPlatform >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was. Please may I ask how long we have to >> >>>>>>>> manage a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migration >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from download.cloud.com? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com< >> >> http://www.shapeblue.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London >> >>>>>>> WC2N >> >>>>>>>>>> 4HSUK >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Raja Pullela >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:raja.pull...@accelerite.com] >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 13:53 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content >> >>>>>>> from >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Paul, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the additional file details >> >>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>> I >> >>>>>>>>>> will >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wido >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy these as well. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, I agree with you there is every copy >> >>>>>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason why I have requested Wido to download >> >>>>>>> all >> >>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> old >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like we missed few and get these >> >>>>>>> uploaded >> >>>>>>>> as >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> well. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that Citrix owns the " >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com" >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> address >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to get all the CloudStack related content >> >>>>>>>> from >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> there. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm on the content move Citrix may choose >> >>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>> remove >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the location. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, I will get in touch with Wido >> >>>>>>> again >> >>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> do >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complete >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such that we have everything. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development >> >>>>>>>> Accelerite, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2055, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com< >> >> http://www.accelerite.com> >> >>>>>>> , >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/16, 7:12 AM, "Paul Angus" < >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just picked up on this. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are a number of URLs which are >> >>>>>>>> hardcoded >> >>>>>>>>>> into >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> database for the small built-in templates. >> >>>>>>> These >> >>>>>>>>> are >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every copy of CloudStack out there. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/f59f18fb- >> >> ae94-4f97 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -afd >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-f8 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 755767aca.vhd.bz2 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/eec2209b-9875- >> >> 3c8d-92 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be-c >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 001b >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8a0faf.qcow2.bz2 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos56- >> >> x86_64.vh >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d.bz >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/4.3/centos6_4_64bit.vhd.bz2 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/CentOS5.3-x86_64.ova >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos-7- >> >> x86_64.ta >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r.gz >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These will need copying and the CloudStack >> >>>>>>>> code >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updating >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you can deprecate >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contents for some time, without causing a lot >> >>>>>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>> issues >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Short Term - all the content has moved to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which sections to be modified? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Install Guide needs to be modified. >> >>>>>>>> Sample >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links/details >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned below for 4.6 and same needs to >> >>>>>>> be >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> updated >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Released versions of Cloudstack >> >>>>>>>> documentation: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack- >> >> installa >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tion >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /en/ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 >> >>>>>>> .6/management-server/#downloading-vhd-util >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section - Downloading vhd-util¶ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What to do modified ? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modify URL from >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com.s3.amazonaws.com/tools/vhd-util >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/tools/vhd-util >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Rajsekhar can you please update the >> >>>>>>>> sections ? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Accelerite, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2055, Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA >> >>>>>>>> 95054, >> >>>>>>>>>> USA >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, >> >>>>>>> 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