Only though testing we can know if there are any regressions, with Debian7 to 
be unsupported somewhere in 2018 we need to start some work around this.

Distros such as Arch Linux are not solid enough or work out of the box and have 
bleeding edge unstable software. Debian 9 "stretch" finally have 
openjdk-8-jre-headless (which surprising was not in debian8, though was in 
debian8's backports) so we can move away from using Azul's distro as well, 
along with having updated stable dependencies/versions.


Debian distributions are usually gold standard for security with other distros 
such as Tails and Kali Linux build on top of it, maybe a reason why systemvm 
templates were originally build using Debian as base. Moving to a new 
distribution will be a lot more work given highly assumed and dependent code 
(bash/python scripts) that targets Debian based systemvmtemplate. Perhaps a 
more modular and modern approach would be to split systemvm services and run 
them in containers, using a light base such as Alpine Linux, however that's a 
different discussion and a much bigger project to undertake.


- Rohit

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From: Jayapal Uradi <jayapal.ur...@accelerite.com>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 6:34:08 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate


First one come to my mind is VPN feature.
But other general issues will depend on what are changed in debain9.

Thanks,
Jayapal




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> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:54 AM, Satki Badal <satki.ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jayapal,
>
> Do we know what all features re covered by Marvin and what all will require 
> manual testing ?
> I guess without this list we can never be sure is all the features got tested 
> or not.
>
> Thanks,
> Satki
>
>> On 24-Jul-2017, at 9:48 AM, Jayapal Uradi <jayapal.ur...@accelerite.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We should throughly check all the VR features to see feature breakage 
>> because of  Debian9.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jayapal
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 23, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>>
>>> Just want to kick an initial discussion around migration to Debian9 based 
>>> systemvmtemplate, and get your feedback on the same.
>>>
>>> Here's a work-in-progress PR: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2198
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
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>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
>>> @shapeblue
>>>
>>>
>>>
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