The proposed implementation will create a master and n worker nodes.
It will also support (graceful) cluster resizing, the next step would be to 
enable the CloudStack plugin for Kubernetes to allow Kubernetes to drive that 
scaling, so that you can scale with demand rather than needing to oversize you 
environment to begin with.

I've been keeping MaaS in mind as way of doing baremetal Kubernetes along side 
VM based Kubernetes clusters.  Interestingly a few people that I have spoken to 
have said that they prefer the use of VMs, because whole servers as the unit of 
scale is often very wasteful, unless you 'share' them which has all sorts of 
security implications...




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-----Original Message-----
From: Pierre-Luc Dion <pd...@cloud.ca> 
Sent: 25 September 2019 15:31
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CloudStack Kubernetes Service plugin

Hi Paul,

Yeah, was bad timing for the CCCNA this year unfortunately :-(,  I'm not sure 
I'm curious to see how cloudstack could become more "other Apache products 
friendly" but I don't have particular use case compared to k8s integration. Has 
you are suggesting, would probably make sense to use Helm to deploy any other 
application stack.

btw, we are still working on the Canonical MaaS integration, a bit more 
challenging than anticipated...


To get back to a *Kubernetes Service plugin*:
To me, as a user of cloudstack at the moment, If I deploy a k8s cluster, I need 
to deploy monstrous instances for worker nodes.
which doesn't make sense if I'm a cloud consumer. So I think we need to solve 
something challenging: a k8s service that would scale has needed while keeping 
in mind redundancy of worker nodes without sacrifice on security. Is the worker 
node is part of the ongoing work or it's more about offering a k8s master and 
api infrastructure to a user ?

An easy path would be some kind of shared worker nodes pool but that involve 
possible security risk unless you would trust users that consume those workers.


On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:15 AM Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com>
wrote:

> Hi Pierre-Luc,
>
> (we missed you at CCCNA!) How are you seeing CloudStack being more 
> deployment friendly?  What you do think that we could do on top of 
> creating the Kubenetes Cluster to begin with?
> [thinking out loud - we could pre-package Tiller to make it easier to 
> deploy openWhisk via Helm charts ? ]
>
> Kind regards
>
>
> Paul.
>
>
>
> paul.an...@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com
> Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK @shapeblue
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pierre-Luc Dion <pd...@cloud.ca>
> Sent: 25 September 2019 13:37
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CloudStack Kubernetes Service plugin
>
> Hi Rohit, Nux,
>
> Thanks Rohit for cloudstack-provider, that's exactly it ! :-D Nux, I agree
> with your opinion, but there is a lot of interest for k8s and seams like a
> lot of organisations are moving to container based infrastructures to
> standardized their deployment.
>
> if we want to extent the discussion to function as a service, would you
> guys see a possibility for us to be more aligned or more deployment
> friendly for Openwhisk ?
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 6:54 AM Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com>
> wrote:
>
> > We see huge demand for K8s in our customer base. Just a note...
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 4:03 AM Nux! <n...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
> >
> > > Do you guys see high demand for K8s?
> > >  From where I'm looking it seems to be going the way of Openstack,
> > > loads of hype, overcomplicated, near-impossible to upgrade.
> > > Not sure if it's worth investing resources for this.
> > >
> > > Lucian
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
> > >
> > > On 2019-09-24 07:41, Abhishek Kumar wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to propose developing a plugin for Kubernetes
> > > > integration in CloudStack, can be named CloudStack Kubernetes
> Service plugin.
> > > > I've written down an initial design document for it here,
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Kube
> > rnetes+Service
> > > > Please review and provide your thoughts and suggestions.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Abhishek Kumar
> > > >
> > > > Software Engineer
> > > >
> > > > ShapeBlue
> > > >
> > > > abhishek.ku...@shapeblue.com
> > > >
> > > > www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
> > > >
> > > > abhishek.ku...@shapeblue.com
> > > > www.shapeblue.com
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> > >
> >
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