€0,02: Though I agree with Sven and Wei, I would say that we want to support as broad a variety of platforms as we can without making any guaranties on any of them, unless we get sponsored by the vendors or users to do so. This is de facto what we do now, but I think we should make that a policy; make sure the code is as generic as possible and help any user support their favorite platform. All that said, yes ubuntu and the main free RHEL clone is reasonable. We have support for rocky and suse now, in different levels of tested "tm" and of course ubuntu.
PS. I don't think we need to drop centos 8. It will get less tlc and testing/bashing, but no reason to not let it in and let users make their hands dirty on it. On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 9:13 AM Wei ZHOU <ustcweiz...@gmail.com> wrote: > Agree with Sven. > > CentOS 8 and CentOS Stream 8 are different. We should support CentOS 8 at > least in 4.16.1.0, and recommend users to use RHEL or Rocky instead as we > will drop CentOS 8 support in a future release. > > -Wei > > On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 21:29, Sven Vogel <s.vo...@ewerk.com> wrote: > > > Hi Guys, > > > > So for what I know is that the last enterprise stable and ready version > is > > 8.X. After that it will be a stream Version. > > A reliable system would be RHEL as a commercial one and Rocky Linux as a > > exact successor from CentOS or let’s say binary clone from RHEL. > > > > Since CloudStack support RHEL and in the newest release of Rocky there is > > no reason to support more CentOS Stream in the future. > > > > Personally. Rocky takes the place. Gregory Kurtzer a founder from CentOS > > was too the founder from Rocky Linux. I think it’s a good place in > > replacement. 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Thank > you. > > > > ________________________________ > > Von: Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com.INVALID> > > Gesendet: Monday, December 20, 2021 8:54:25 PM > > An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > > Betreff: Re: CentOS 8 EOL > > > > If you are suggesting that ACS picked a version of Linux, supported it > > with an update repo and guaranteed that it would run forever under ACS > > as long as you kept up with the ACS published updates, that might solve > > a lot of problems for system administrators. > > At least there would be a "recommended" Linux that ACS guaranteed would > > run under Cloudstack. > > > > Are there a lot of different functionalities in the various Linux > > versions that make a difference when running applications under > Cloudstack? > > > > Can one pick a Linux distribution that would run all the apps that 95% > > of Cloudstack users actually need? It seems that a lot of the > > differences in Linux distributions are in the desktop apps. > > > > Ron > > > > On 2021-12-20 10:18, Nathan McGarvey wrote: > > > All/any, > > > Realistically, since CentOS Stream doesn't have minor versions, > I'm > > > not really sure how you *could* support it. It would be like supporting > > > CentOS 7.0-7.9, but not knowing which version someone is running. You'd > > > have to only support the "latest" version as of <date/time>, which > might > > > be chaos. > > > > > > Both Rocky and Alma have fairly decent corporate backers, at least > > > for the immediate term. (Alma being their parent company pledging > > > 1M/year at least until 2029 to finish out the 8 release cycle, and > Rocky > > > has about 2M/year at the moment, but could flex more.) > > > Even Oracle, with their RHEL rebuild could be used in a similar > > > manner, though I'd probably not recommend them due to their long track > > > record of open-source interactions being less-than-ideal. > > > > > > Perhaps ACS can just pick one of the rebuilds (E.g. Rocky), but > > > actually publish stuff as just "EL" like EPEL does? It shouldn't really > > > matter, aside from /etc/os-release files and such. Perhaps ACS can do > > > what many utilities do and make a "OS Family" determination (Ref: > > > puppet, ansible, etc.) Instead of a strict "exact same" OS requirement. > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > -Nathan McGarvey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/16/21 10:40 AM, Nicolas Vazquez wrote: > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> CentOS 8 will reach EOL on 31st December this year - > > https://www.centos.org/centos-linux-eol/ > > >> > > >> Opening this thread for discussion on the actions needed: should we > > drop support on the next 4.16.1 release and onwards? > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Nicolas Vazquez > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > -- > > Ron Wheeler > > Artifact Software > > 438-345-3369 > > rwhee...@artifact-software.com > > > -- Daan
