From: Bertrand Delacretaz

Thanks Bertrand, privily I hoped you join this discussion :-)

> Le Dimanche, 30 nov 2003, � 15:18 Europe/Zurich, Reinhard 
> Poetz a �crit 
> :
> 
> > ...yep, I had the feeling too but as we don't have any rules for
> > feature
> > requests and I don't have the know-how in Bugzilla how to separate
> > between patches, bugs and feature requests...
> 
> There was a discussion a while ago, the best way to 
> differentiate seems 
> to be:
> 
> -[PATCH] in the summary for patches
> -Severity=Enhancement for feature requests
> -The rest are bugs

Ok

> 
> >  and I also don't have the
> > time to find out all those things I used Wiki which was the easierst
> > way
> > for *me*. When I wrote the mail to the list I asked for 
> help moving the
> > issues to Bugilla (any Bugzilla gurus out there???) but 
> haven't got any
> > reponse on my call.
> >
> > so, do we have the possibility to get useful reports from 
> Bugzilla - 
> > useful means: to get e.g. only feature requests for CocoonForms?
> 
> "only feature requests" = "Severity==enhancement"
> 
> CocoonForms = need to to define a Component called 
> CocoonForms for the 
> "Cocoon 2" product in bugzilla.

What do we need this for?
If all enhancement requests are marked as such we simply don't include
them and also don't include all bugs with "[Patch]" in their summary
and we get a list of all open bugs.

See http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=HowWeUseBugzilla - I added
a query section

> 
> Mere mortals don't seem to be allowed to do that though, there should 
> be a standard way to contact bugzilla admins (Pier AFAIK, others?) to 
> ask them to do it if this function ("edit products") cannot be made 
> open to committers easily.
> 
> > ...or do we need some more advanced tool like JIRA?
> 
> What you're looking for can be done today in bugzilla, IMHO we should 
> try to use it before switching. But to be efficient the "edit 
> products" 
> page should be made accessible to committers (at least some of them).

I *don't* have a problem with bugzilla, if it feets our needs and 
what I understood and tried it completly does ...

> 
> For a roadmap like 
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=CocoonFormsRoadmap 
> I'd create a 
> master "Cocoon Forms Roadmap" bugzilla entry which depends on other 
> entries from the roadmap, to have an easy way to see them 
> together as a 
> group.
> 
> I've created entry 25099 to test this, the dependencies list 
> (currently 
> only one dependent entry) can be seen at 
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25099


Looks good, exactly what I needed. So IIUC we have to:

 - get access to the "edit products" function or at least set up
   a standard (organizational) procedure how we have it done (e.g.
   email the right person at Apache infrastructure)

 - create CocoonForms component
   --> altough I don't know what we need this for ...

 - make it possible to have more than 6 votes

 - move all entries from Wiki to Bugzilla
 
 - give our users and committers some time to vote

 - discuss on [EMAIL PROTECTED] the voting results and set 
   up the roadmap 
   --> how can we activate the "target milestone"? That's exactly what
we would need!

 - implementation ;-)


--
Reinhard

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