> IIRC, your own sitemap tracer trial never made it into Cocoon CVS 
> neither? So him copying some aspects of it is hardly an ASF concern 
> (nor is your point really about the copying, of course).

Actually, I made a small mess of the tracer trial, wasn't being particularly original 
or creating a Great Piece of Art. I'm not concerned about it in any way. Let me please 
drop that part of the discussion. It had nothing to do with the Cocoon CVS and I 
apologize if I made it look like I wanted to disturb the ASF with my crappy little 
cocoon tracer trial. (Did I mention it was shitty? It was! %-) ). 

However, what I'm trying to state is that there exists at least one person somewhere 
on the globe (in Korea) that wants to build a tool for Cocoon. How can we motivate him 
to build this piece of software in a way that is usefull for other Cocooners as well?

> About the tools thing: +1, but not as some cocoon 
> scratchpad/subproject/cvs module thing which is is sneakily slipped 
> under the door: if it comes to Apache and had been coded outside, and 
> it has little community, incubation is the only entrance IMHO. 

I understand.

> If the 
> incubator sucks, we should go and and talk with them about changing 
> their rules. About cocoondev.org: I'm all ears, if code and community 
> exist somehow.

I would really like to have a repository for
- Blocks
- Tools

Of course, we could drop these into SourceForge. But I would prefer Cocoondev.org 
because I think it was meant for blocks (being small, functional Cocoon applications). 

Arj�

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