Hi all,

Along with this kind of notifying post to the mailing list, I'm also keeping a blog of my Daisy Documentation work: http://www.planetcocoon.com/blog/category/daisy (or there's an RSS feed here: http://www.planetcocoon.com/blog/category/daisy/feed) This post is from http://www.planetcocoon.com/node/2276.

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Last night I refactored, edited and added some content to the existing Daisy repository according to the structure discussed yesterday afternoon. I also began the process of converting some Wiki content to Daisy.

I created a CategoryInDaisy page in the Wiki, so that it is easy to record a wiki page as having been transferred. Perhaps we could have CategoryDaisyInProgress, CategoryDaisyComplete? I also recorded on the Wiki page where a piece of content has gone (i.e. a Wiki page may be split or combined).

After about 3 hours solid Daisy usage (as a consumer rather than as a developer) I'm quite impressed. The positives for me so far are:

* The usability of the WYSIWYG editor is good, and I only needed to swap into raw HTML view a few times (to remove <p> tags within pasted <li> for example). * Daisy was very quick and responsive (with occasional pauses/slow round-trips). * The "Duplicate" feature is very useful in refactoring work (i.e. splitting one page into two or more).
    * Easy and intuitive editing of the navigation map.

On the other hand, the negatives are:

* Newly created pages are invisible until they are published (by someone with publishing rights). It's a little like flying blind. I had to remember document IDs in order to cross-link (unpublished pages don't show up in the link chooser). I couldn't review my newly created pages unless I edited them (if I view a newly created page I just see "This document is not yet published."). * I had to edit the navigation structure to see my changes. Again, adding document IDs/labels to this structure had to be done from memory. * Switching between the navigation structure editor and the page editor was tedious. I understand the power of this separation, but from a usability point of view it would be nice to make the management of a page's location possible from the page itself.

I think it's going to prove difficult for editors to make significant structural changes due to this lack of visibility and immediate feedback. Incidentally, despite not having publish permissions, I can still see a checkbox saying "Publish changes immediately" when I edit a page.

I may have overlooked better ways of using Daisy, so please let me know if there are things I could do differently! As Upayavira said: "As to whether this is the right way - I'm sure there are more technically perfect approaches. The thing about this one is that it has the community behind it[...] And that has to be worth something."

Steven, Helma, et al, keep up the great work on Daisy!

Mark

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