Gianugo Rabellino <gianugo <at> gmail.com> writes: > I'm more > and more inclined in devoting some of my Copious Free Time to a Xul > CForms renderer, and I wanted to catch up with other fellow members > and see what's going on.
That was what Claas Thiele and I started at the hackathon. > I understand from > http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25295 that Jorg is > already doing something, so before reinventing wheels I'd love to know > what the current status is and if/how I might help. Claas has the code and will send it to me probably today. After this I will attach it to the bug and go into the details. > 1. server roundtrip model: Xul doesn't really fit in a > request-response model where all data travel at once upon hitting a > submit button. This might lead to two different alternatives: (a) ajax > all over the place, where more or less every widget submits events to > a Cocoon server or (b) server roundtrips being avoided whenever > possible thanks to the richest functionalities of a Xul frontend > (think repeaters). Is it an either-or-decision? > Convergence with the new Ajax model of CForms > somewhat blurs the line, yet I feel that a mere translation of CForms > widgets to Xul without a rethink of the roundtrip model might be > somewhat limiting (as in "uh, ok, so what?"). Actually, I might go as > far as saying that the whole Xul/CForms marriage might not have that > much sense now that we have Ajax and all the Web 2.0 yadda-yadda. That > is, unless we figure out some real advantage in server interaction. Claas and I came to the conclusion that Ajax as-is does not work with XUL. > 2. the role of XBL. I feel XBL (xul binding/extension language) might > play an important role in producing advanced widgets (again, think > repeaters, calendar popups, double selection lists... well, you name > it). Still, XBL is tightly coupled with CSS, and I'm not sure how to > manage the CSS->XBL relationship within Cocoon. That's really advanced stuff. Starting with simple stuff will be hard enough ;) > Well, these are just a few initial thoughts, which don't even deserve > the status of [RT]: let's say I'm just trying to break the ice and see > what's going on in Xul/Cocoonland. Awaiting for your comments! Breaking the ice might be necessary :) Wait for the code submit and the status I will send. Jörg
