On 08.12.2005, at 19:21, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Amen :) ...I also started a long-winded response to this big thread(s) but since at least a little crowd is going to meet soon at the ApacheCon I ended up thinking a few high bandwidth f2f discussion and *then* get back the list might be a better time investment in the end. So let's make it short for now... A lot has been said ...and although there has been some disagreement to me it does not feel like the common vision is really so diverse at all. Simplicity and modularity! ...we just seem to have different views on *how* this should happen. I am also one of those who believe that Joel's article just doesn't get it right. Just because you will *never* throw away all the code! And I assume when people are talking about "from scratch" we will still find quite some code from the old codebase in the new one. I am sure we would get there through refactoring as well ...but that's sooooo much hard work ...and with such a big project it will mostly be just a constant pain ...ending in frustrated developers. ...but that's the last thing we need! We need back some more FUN developing cocoon! (*sigh* The good old 2.x days spring to mind) How childish! Maybe ...but somehow I think that's how it works. Face it! We need the kick of the new! ...and since the core API got pretty much stable we added so much new stuff on top that the core had no "air to breathe" anymore. Time seems to be right to put cocoon on a diet ...give the baby some air to breath and let's resurrect core development. I am sure we can do it again ...and this time we should have enough people with old versions installed so we *have* to provide a migration path. So no user should have to worry ;) Let's do it! ...ups ...got longer than I wanted ;) cheers -- Torsten |
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