On Dec 23, 2005, at 8:43 AM, Giacomo Pati wrote:

Before I'm going to commit the real MBean I have I'd like to discuss whether we want to have a cocoon.sh/cocoon.bat option to start a jetty with a JMX-Agent activated.

My oppinion would be: Yes we should

+1. I agree, cocoon.sh is useful and we should try to keep it / make it as useful as possible, not just show it as "well here is how you could write a script that would start Cocoon". It's that kind of approach that newbies find so exasperating about Cocoon. We should strive for Cocoon to be as useful OOTB as possible! :-)

I use cocoon.sh in a production environment for all my projects. I have a small wrapper script that calls cocoon.sh and parameterizes it by setting various shell variables used by cocoon.sh.

If most people find this is a must I'd further want to discuss whether we should switch to a more recent jetty version (now 4.2.23, I suggest using 5.1.8) which has better configuablility (we can get rid of the Loader class) and the way how JMX is configured is mutch clearer to me.

Also my oppinion on this is: Yes, I'd like to

+1 for (a) a current & better Jetty, (b) enables a simplification (it's always good when you can get rid of something), and (c) 'clearer' JMX configuration, whatever you mean by that, but it sounds like a good thing :-)