Hi guys,
I've finally been able to work on this some more.
http://web.inter.nl.net/users/hepabolu/cocoondocsskin/index.html and
..../samples/samples.html
show some changes I've made after your feedback.
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
> hmmm, the search box looks better at the bottom, but it might disappear
> at longer menus. Second thing is that defacto standard for search boxes
> is the top right area.
I've chosen to keep it at the top to keep it visible. Top right might be
defacto, but the Cocoon logo is there already, so a search box would
clutter things.
> - I like the new design, it's lightweight and focuses on the content
Thanks.
> - I would only change the bullet points in the menu (black circles) by
> replacing them with light blue squares (same blue as the background
> of the search box).
That would be too light, so I've chosen the color of the headers.
> - IMO we shouldn't change the Cocoon logo but keep the current one.
Makes sense, so I've done that, but I don't like the blue color. I've
tried changing the color, but I don't have the proper software so it
came out ugly. Changing the colors of the rest of the page didn't come
out right either, so basically I think we need to change the blue color
in the Cocoon logo.
> - I would leave more space above a headline than below. A headline
should be connected with the text that belongs to it.
Done that, looks better so I've kept it. ;-)
Jean-Baptiste Quenot wrote:
> Looks nice! Much more elegant than the current site, more simple,
> especially the menu. Much easier to read, the font on your new
> skin is bigger and better.
Thanks.
> Difficult to tell what is the best option. I prefer search at the
> top, and it would be worth to insert the Google logo to indicate
> that it is a Google search.
It's a good idea to indicate it's a Google search, so I've added a
little line which is a link to Google.
> better. And maybe replacing « Apache Software Foundation » with
> « Apache Cocoon » would clearly indicate what the site is talking
> about. In short, cocoon-project-logo.png is more appropriate than
> group-logo.gif.
Right. I wasn't able to recreate the image with the Cocoon title and
link, so I decided to mimick it with standard HTML and CSS. I like it so
far, but could put in some more work to make it better, although IE is
the limiting factor here.
Ross Gardler wrote:
- I added some extra HTML to make the accessibility easier and the
unstyled version clearer.
Hmmm... depends on exactly what you have done.
We have a great deal of control over the structural elements of the page
(<div...> etc.) and over the decorations of the page (navigation for
example) but very little control over the HTML used in the content since
that is managed by Daisy.
True, but if you disable CSS you can see what I've done. I've basically
added a "skip navigation" link at the top and an anchor and <hr/> at the
end of the navigation, just before the actual content. I think you add
the navigation anyway, since it's not part of the Daisy page.
- XHTML 1.0 Strict doesn't allow '+' in the anchor names, at least
according to Tidy. I've changed them to underscores.
Depends on what these anchor names are, if they are manually entered
into the src docs then it is editor error on the part of the sample
files used to generate this sample site. If they are auto generated by
Forrest we can, of course change this. I'll have to check with the
Forrest devs on why we use a '+'
I'm sorry I haven't kept a log of what I've done and to simplify the
work I've done a pretty print on all HTML files and my diff tools are
too limited to work around this.
BTW. The abstract div ended up as <div class="abstract"/> when it's
empty. This gives strange results (all subsequent text is assumed to be
part of the div), so I've had to add the end tag. I think this is a
Cocoon bug (or at least one of the components), because I have this
problem too in my site. So I'd be very happy if you could solve this
once and for all and let me know. ;-)
Currently there is one strange issue left: when you look at the nav
section of the samples page (I've added extra "index" items for clarity)
the list "bullet" should be left of the "SUBDIR" heading. This is true
for Safari and Firefox but in IE6 it's vertically centered next to the
list. I'll go on a hunt to fix this, in the meantime the pages are up
for review and feedback.
BTW do you like the layout of the Notes, Warnings and Fixes? (See
samples page)
Bye, Helma
