Joerg Heinicke skrev:
On 15.08.2006 17:28, Jason Johnston wrote:

I am interested (and I think the community needs to know) what Joerg's criteria for approving an eventual move to 1.5 would need to be, in some measurable way. I'm sure he would agree that at some point in the future moving to 1.5+ will be appropriate, but how will we know when that time has come?

That's indeed a very difficult question. And there is probably nothing measurable. I argued with the silent user base still using Java 1.4 - they will probably also not stand up and shout "Now we us Java 5, you can switch."
I know for sure that there is an even larger potential silent user base that would use Cocoon 2.2 only if it is based on Java 5 ;)

No, honestly, we cannot base our decisions about what technology to use from hypothesis about what a "silent user base" is supposed to need. We can ask on dev- and user-list, we can base it on what organizations and people we know does. We can base decisions on various research about how large coverage a certain technology has. But we shouldn't base important decisions on things we don't know.

Also, Apache is about community. If these large banks depend on Cocoon (or other open source), without even bothering to have someone lurking on the user list, their open source strategy sucks so bad that it is questionable that we can help them anyway.

Even if Cocoon is free, there is a cost if you want to have any influence in its development: participation.

/Daniel

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