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Leszek Gawron said the following on 27/9/06 16:25:
> I have managed to create a single blog entry about starting a mavenized
> cocoon application: http://ouzo.squash.eu.org/
>
> It enlists all the commands you need to enter to create a valid cocoon
> application skeleton.

Yes I noticed and I'd love to hold you to your promise of more installments. With your permission I'd like to integrate it the Daisy pages that already exist.

Andrew Savory said the following on 27/9/06 13:10:
Sounds like a good thing to work on at the hackathon too, perhaps.

+1

Jorg Heymans said the following on 27/9/06 16:19:
> +1, Helma if you want i'll give you a hand getting past the initial
> hurdles and writing things up in Daisy.

Good idea.

> (that is, if JBQ hasn't made the maven build obsolete by that time)

I'm very curious to see Ant + Ivy building Cocoon.

I don't mind which one it's going to be eventually, but I think that every build method needs links into the documentation of the project. Even links to Ant documentation as a courtesy to newcomers would be good.

Sylvain Wallez said the following on 27/9/06 15:09:
> Hmm... not Cocoon-specific, but I'd like to suggest
> http://bluxte.net/blog/2006-09/17-52-51.html and all its sequels
> (related blog posts and comments)


I've read the initial post and all its comments. I didn't follow through to the other posts, because I recognized my previous experience in your post: I couldn't get Maven to comfortably build my project and it felt very arbitrarily and artificial to split my project according to Maven's wishes.

I suppose that before I start putting a big effort into writing about builds with Maven, we could use the Hackathon to decide on Maven vs something else.

One more remark, something that was in the comments of your posts: Maven provides an easy way to build a consistent project website. I both agree and disagree. It's true that Maven gives you a consistent project site with the usual "what, who, where and how to install" stuff. I strongly suggest that Cocoon has a consistent way of providing this information in an easy to find place. However, proper documentation about the USE of the project, be it Maven, be it Cocoon or any other project, needs quite different tools. Using Maven for the Cocoon documentation takes us back from Daisy to handcrafted xdocs.

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