Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:

Although there are many people involved in Cocoon we are just a few who work on the core and basic infrastructure. And we where spreading ourselves to thin in the project by both working on moving to Spring, moving to Maven and using OSGi at the same time. So we decided to focus on Spring, Maven and getting a release of 2.2 before continuing the work on moving to OSGi.

Also it was a quite large work to integrate Spring and OSGi. And when we saw that a project doing that started within the Spring community with some OSGi heavyweights involved, it seemed like a better idea to stop our own development in that area and either join them or being lazy and wait for them to deliver something ;)

It would be much simpler to move Cocoon to OSGi today as we have simplified the core considerably and there is much more support for using OSGi in enterprise software projects now.

Fair enough, makes sense. :-)

So what is your interest in it? Would you like to use a OSGi based Cocoon or do you feel that it would be fun working on creating it :)

My main interest is in using it :-)
And I know too little of Cocoon 2.2 to help you in the process - I would dig deeper but unfortunately I don't have time for this right now. I need it for my day job and I need something that works now :-|

My requirements:
* component based development with packaging (JAR up components) - here I mainly mean UI components or "web application features"
 * easy i18n and l10n
* fairly easy skinnability, output customization for different clients (application logic stays the same but design and even links can change) * support for rich clients (HTML+AJAX) and "thin clients" (WML and XHTML Basic)
 * template and java logic separation

So far I've looked at:
* Cocoon blocks with OSGi - looks promising, but will arrive too late for me
 * Old-style cocoon blocks? - haven't looked in there yet.
* JSF (Shale, Seam, etc) - looks interesting, but seems to be too "heavy" and complex. * Wicket and Pax Wicket for OSGi support - I need to look deeper in this, looks most promising right now * RIFE - lots of interesting ideas, but they try to reinvent too many things, IMO. And I don't like their static service access style. * Spring MVC with Web Flow - my impression is that it is not easy to do COP with it.

Maybe you have a pointer to a good Cocoon 2.2 introduction (especially the blocks support and how does Spring help you with all this)?
Or just checkout from SVN and build the docs?

Last time I checked Cocoon sources was in 2.0.x series and then it was just too much to wrap my head around. As I understand, things have gotten a lot modular around here with blocks, but I'm still a bit wary to look into Cocoon SVN repo. :-P

Rgds,
Neeme

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