Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote:
Vadim Gritsenko napisaƂ(a):
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote:

IMHO, Cocoon *should* handle *external* HTTP HEAD requests automatically -- build a pipeline, but not execute it -- and do it for all types of sitemap, including those which have actions or flowscripts -- so that application writer can explicitly handle these cases, as Daniel said above. Yes, documentation and warnings would be nice.

For pipelines consisting of only generators, transformers and serializers it's really easy to implement (I have a patch for it already done). However, how do you see it could be implemented *automatically* for actions and flowscripts?

IIRC, tree processor can happily build a pipeline even if there are actions in the sitemap - so that is not a problem.

A bit different with the flowscript. In case of a flowscript, tree processor result will be one of:

 * empty response with status code
 * internal redirect
 * redirect

In case of internal redirect you'd have to follow it to build the actual 
pipeline.


But, I am not so sure that this same mechanism should be reused in the context of this service machinery -- some other option discussed earlier in this thread is IMHO more appropriate here, be it passing some environment or call stack or whatever is required (yep, you can tell I was not following this thread too closely ;-)

For some reason I do have an expectation that "service" would work seamlessly with any sort of sitemap, passing in data from original request unchanged. Imagine for a second that the sitemap you are calling *is* aware of the HTTP method, and its response depends on the method. In this case, if you change request method -- say original method was PROPSET or LOCK -- and use HEAD instead of LOCK, the sitemap you are calling could give completely unexpected result (e.g. error page :).

You are right here but how it's different from current situation with buffered vs not buffered output?

I don't see any connection of the above with unbuffered output?


Calculation of status code is done in setup phase then if you have not buffered output stream and something bad occurs during actual processing (so exception is thrown) you are going to have a real trobule - broken resposne.

That is the price you are prepared to pay if you *HAVE TO* have unbuffered output. An alternative to unbuffered output usually is a (almost guaranteed) OutOfMemoryError. What would you pick -- OOME in 99% of requests or broken response in 0.01% of requests?


I guess the same applies to the current situation. For most of the time, simple handling of HEAD method will just work, in more sophisticated scenarios it's up to developer to handle all the cases.

You probably missed the point in the first paragraph you quoted. That's what I said -- Cocoon should handle HEAD requests, automatically, for external HEAD requests.

However, that should not be done in the context of services *creating internal* HEAD requests while original HTTP request was something different -- that would break any program, even specifically written for such quirks. This is described in 2nd and 3rd paragraph you quoted.


I'm not in favor of any solution because all of them have shortcomings. What Daniel proposed is the less invasive solution and can be implemented very easily so I'll go for it.

What is this solution?

Vadim

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