Ok... my mail might have sounded a bit sarcastic...  but i think that's the 
price you have to pay for innovation.  Either you go with the flow and pay the 
price (or you customers do) or you keep on using slowly deprecating technology. 
My customer is facing the same issue. They are still using a really old highly 
customized version of Websphere Product Centre (JDK1.4 ugh ugh).   Upgrading 
will cost them 1.5 million euro ;-(

While choosing for open source will prevent vendor lock-in, not upgrading from 
time to time will lead to ... how will i call it:
- version lock in
- application lock in
- ...

I think it's important to inform customers about the consequences of making too 
many customizations. And it's equaly important to investigate if an appropiate 
upgrade path can be followed.  I personally convince customers that upgrading 
with new major releases should be taken into account.

Robby




-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Laurent Medioni [mailto:lmedi...@odyssey-group.com]
Verzonden: vr 17-12-2010 16:14
Aan: dev@cocoon.apache.org
Onderwerp: RE: Latest on Cocoon?
 
Several dozens of customers in production, using a 10 years span of our 
products versions, having customised on-site some of the hundreds of XSPs we 
deliver ?
+ our in-house Eclipse page designer generating XSP code, + all our framework 
and business taglibs on top of XSP ?
;)
I wish I could fly too ;)

Laurent

-----Original Message-----
From: Robby Pelssers [mailto:robby.pelss...@ciber.com] 
Sent: vendredi, 17. décembre 2010 14:14
To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: RE: Latest on Cocoon?

I really can't understand why you would still like to use XSP while there are 
far better alternatives out there?  I was in the exact same position 6 years 
ago where we had this large Cocoon application using solely xsp's. We took the 
decision to rewrite all functionality to flowscript / jxtemplate and we never 
regretted this decision.  And 2 years back I decided to switch to Cocoon 2.2 
and yet again no regrets.  Sure, you have to do quite a bit of additional work 
but postponing an upgrade will fire back at you in the long run.  Not saying 
you have to be an early adapter but once those early birds have used it for 1 
year in production environments and most bugs are removed... you should 
definitely consider it.

I'm about to start writing my first Cocoon 3 app while it's still in alpha-2 
...  See how that turns out ;-)

Kind regards,
Robby Pelssers

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