--- Tim O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/3/07, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Dennis Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Matt Benson wrote: > > > > Thanks for your response, Dennis: > > > > > > > > --- Dennis Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> The site for jxpath builds fine for me using > > > Maven > > > >> 1.0.2. It looks as > > > >> good as any of the other components sites > that > > > are > > > >> build with M1. > > > >> > > > >> Which reports that are generated is > configured in > > > >> the <reports> section > > > >> of the file project.xml. Most of the plugins > in > > > >> Maven 1 can be tweaked > > > >> by adding or changing properties in the file > > > >> project.properties. > > > >> > > > >> If you need more info about a certain plugin, > > > check > > > >> the site for that > > > >> plugin. Start at > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > http://maven.apache.org/maven-1.x/plugins/bundledHistory.html > > > >> and choose the plugin you're interested in. > Each > > > >> plugin has an item > > > >> "Plugin properties" in the menu that gives > more > > > >> information. > > > >> > > > >> If you want to, we could convert the site to > use > > > >> Maven 2 instead. > > > > > > > > <cringe> is there any reason I'd want to do > that? > > > :o > > > > > > > > Seriously, 'cause I don't know... > > > > > > The reason would be that commons is moving in > that > > > direction. It might > > > be a waste of time for you to learn Maven 1 now, > and > > > then have to learn > > > Maven 2 in a short while. You could just as well > > > jump right on to Maven > > > 2. But that's your call :-) > > > > Is the fact that the sites can be made uniform the > > driving reason to use Maven 1 or 2? If, > > hypothetically speaking, there were a third option > > that could generate the site identically, would > there > > be a good reason to forbid its use? > > > > Yes, standardization. Go ahead and create your own > site generation > technology, but commit to sticking around to update > it forever. > Commons project (especially) experience bursts of > interest and > activity. A project might have a dedicated release > manager > throughout the years (example would be Rahul and > SCXML), but another > project might have a release manager that disappears > for a year, or a > series of release managers spanning multiple years > (example would be > something like Codec). The only way certain > subproject's sites are > not going to fall into disrepair is if there is a > common way to > generate them. >
Actually I was thinking along the lines of a tool that would generate identical output from identical (existing) input. That doesn't seem like too much of a breaker. I really do see your point wrt attrition-tolerance, at least in the context of the Commons project, but that doesn't change the fact that Maven makes me feel like a helpless spectator in my build process. :| I can't help but have the impression that customizing a Maven build entails the same amount of work as orchestrating a build from scratch with pick-another-build-technology. Obviously I'm biased by my own experience as well and I don't intend to deny it. > If a project has some custom site build process, it > just makes it that > much harder for someone to jump in and fix a bug and > keep the > documentation up to date. > > Instead of just turning you nose up on a Maven site, In fairness, I'm turning up my nose at Maven-as-a-methodology, not the sites it generates. But I'm sure this discussion's been had before, and it's obvious what the result was. I'm in Rome now, so I don't see any point in this becoming any kind of flame war. > someone needs to > create a commons-skin similar to what the Spring > Framework guys are > doing, and similar to what the Wicket people are > doing. How does (or otherwise) this relate to what is "commons-skin" in svn? -Matt > > > -Matt > > > > > > > > Anyway, I'm here if you need help with either > > > version. > > > > > > <snip/> > > > > > > -- > > > Dennis Lundberg > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the > Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > ------ > Tim O'Brien: (847) 863-7045 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]