Hi Ralph,

Ralph Goers wrote at Mittwoch, 22. April 2009 05:19:

[snip]

> Does it really matter that you understand what they are trying to do?
> What should matter is what they are trying to do doesn't work properly
> and they couldn't find a work around.

Did anyone of them ask here and try to explain the situation? All I ever
here is "it's a known issue that CL does not work, so let's switch". What a
great reasoning.

> I'm still at a loss as to how this conversation has devolved to this.
> This post was meant as an example as to why yet another project is
> switching away from Commons Logging.

Yes, and they are switching probably for the wrong reasons. If they really
expect the classloading issues going away with SLF4J, I wonder, if they
really tested webapps that make usage of SLF4J themselves under the same
conditions.
 
> I'll ask again. What is next for Commons Logging? Is there any point
> in enhancing it to emulate SLF4J? Should it just stay more or less as
> it is while it slowly loses its customer base?

This is more a consequence of a lot of FUD that is currently around. Yes,
there have been problems, but that's why version 1.1.1 is around. See that
guy raising the last issue in JIRA for a WebLogic 10.x instance, he's still
using 1.0.4.

Therefore why is it necessary to use SLF4J in CC, when all other commons
components use CL?

- Jörg


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