sebb wrote:
> On 23/11/2009, Henri Yandell <flame...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Given that the Sun JDK's SSL implementation has the same problem as
>>  other SSL implementations, and given that Sun don't support the free
>>  1.4 and 1.5 versions (so no security fixes coming), I think we do a
>>  disservice in even encouraging people to stay on 1.4 and 1.5 by
>>  continuing to support them.
> 
> I don't see it like that.
> 
> The policy has been for Commons components to be upwards compatible,
> so IMO the fact that Commons Foo supports Java 1.2 or 1.3 has no
> little or no bearing on whether the end user decides to upgrade to
> 1.6.
> 
> Larger organisations tend to be very conservative about upgrading to
> the latest version of Java; if we change Commons to require Java 1.6
> unneccessarily then IMO the likely effect is to prevent some companies
> from using the latest version of Commons, i.e. it makes the situation
> slightly worse, not better.
> 
>>  1.6 for all Commons components :)
> 
> I assume that is not serious, otherwise -1.

Agree with sebb on this.  Dropping support for 1.5 is not a serious
option.  Since 1.4 ~ 1.5 wrt this problem, I want to keep the min
jdk for dbcp 1.3 at jdk 1.4. In dbcp/pool 2.0, we can up the minimum
to 1.5+ and take advantage of the concurrency package and / or
borrow from Oliver's great new concurrency additions to [lang].
There are quite a few bug fixes in dbcp 1.3 that we should make
available ss drop-in replacement for users of earlier versions.

I am being a little inconsistent here by increasing the required
level to 1.4, which normally should only be done in a major version
release, but 1.3 is so old now that I am OK with that change.

Phil
> 
> I'm all for changing the minimum version of Java where it helps the
> end-user, but not just for the sake of it.
> 
>>  Hen
>>
>>
>>  On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Gary Gregory
>>  <ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com> wrote:
>>  > Our server and tools are all on Java 6, so for us, moving to 6 is quite 
>> fine.
>>  >
>>  > We strongly encourage our users to move away from 1.4.2 ASAP.
>>  >
>>  > Gary
>>  >
>>  >> -----Original Message-----
>>  >> From: Phil Steitz [mailto:phil.ste...@gmail.com]
>>  >> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 14:03
>>  >> To: Commons Developers List
>>  >> Subject: Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release problems
>>  >>
>>  >> Gary Gregory wrote:
>>  >> > Does dropping support for Java 1.4 simply the issue?
>>  >>
>>  >> No. Would have to drop 1.5 too.
>>  >>
>>  >> Phil
>>  >> >
>>  >> > Gary
>>  >> >
>>  >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>  >> >> From: Phil Steitz [mailto:phil.ste...@gmail.com]
>>  >> >> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 08:43
>>  >> >> To: Commons Developers List
>>  >> >> Subject: [dbcp] 1.3 release problems
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >> I am running into some problems preparing for dbcp-1.3.  I would
>>  >> >> appreciate comments / patches on any of the issues below.
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >> 1. Findbugs is showing some real (inconsistent synch) and not so
>>  >> >> real (e.g. serialization issues on classes that IMO should not be
>>  >> >> serializable, but we can't fix until 2.0).  The full report is here:
>>  >> >> http://commons.apache.org/dbcp/findbugs.html
>>  >> >> I would appreciate suggestions/patches/commits for what to fix and
>>  >> how.
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >> 2. We can't compile commons-pool-1.3.jar against JDK 1.6 (JDBC 4)
>>  >> >> and expect it to work for JDK 1.4/1.5 (JDBC 3) clients (at least not
>>  >> >> as the code stands today).  So we need to create two jar artifacts.
>>  >> >>  The question is which one gets the 1.3 name, what is the other
>>  >> >> named and how do we package the distros?
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >> 3. I assume it is OK at this point to drop the nojdbc3 Ant target
>>  >> >> and compiler flags for JDBC 2.
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >> TIA
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >> Phil
>>  >> >>
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