Hi Gary :)
thanks for the feedback, IMHO once the Configuration for
Generic(Keyed)ObjectPool(Factory) will be fixed, we could start
thinking about a new release of the new pool. This evening/tonight (in
my local time) I'll start re-arranging stuff, of course suggestions
will be more than appreciated.

About duplication: I agree with you, but after re-reading all the
mails we wrote about it, I recently become convinced that
Configuration for GKOB/GOB have different semantic even if some
configuration property have same name/type, what's your opinion about
it? Many thanks in advance!

Have a nice day,
Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/



On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Gary Gregory
<ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com> wrote:
> Yes, I thought we were on a roll there! Lots of good discussions and then... 
> quiet. That's OK though. We all get busy. Time to come back and reflect.
>
> I am still looking for these goals:
> - Generics released ASAP. I would be OK for a earlier release just to get 
> this out.
> - Better names for properties and methods
> - Refactor to remove duplication
>
> Gary
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Simone Tripodi [mailto:simone.trip...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 09:33
>> To: Commons Developers List
>> Subject: Re: [pool] Pool config vs. factory hierarchies.
>>
>> Hi all guys,
>> sorry for resurrecting a zombie message, but I've been busy at work
>> and haven't had the chance to contribute at all.
>> I could re-start committing code according to the requirements
>> described by Phil, If it works for you, so other tasks like
>> JMX/autoconfigure can be unlocked, please let me know.
>> Have a nice day,
>> Simo
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Nov 3, 2010, at 5:03 PM, Steven Siebert <smsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> You restore the pool fields that used to hold the configuration setting
>> >>> properties and leave the getters and setters (for the mutable ones) in
>> >>> place.
>> >>>
>> >>> Phil
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> so something like this?
>> >>
>> >> public class GOP extends .... {
>> >>
>> >>   /**
>> >>    * ref to immutable config reference, immutable config values are either
>> >> referred directly here
>> >>    * or are copied to a final instance field
>> >>   */
>> >>   private GOPConfig config
>> >
>> > No.  There is no config member.  It is used only to encapsulate the
>> parameters of the ctors.  The GOP class stores the config data in individual
>> fields, accessed by getters and setters.  The setters at least are
>> synchronized using the pool monitor. Look at the old code.  What I am
>> proposing is that we limit the use and lifetime of the config objects to the
>> ctors and/or factories.
>> >
>> > Phil
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   //mutable configuration values are mutated/accessed from pool instance
>> >>   private volatile int mut1;  //probably better to use read/write locks
>> >>   private volatile int mut2;
>> >>
>> >>   public GOP (GOPConfig config) {
>> >>      this.config = config;
>> >>      reconfigure(config);
>> >>   }
>> >>
>> >>   /**
>> >>    * using this model, this method isn't really required (at least not
>> >> public)
>> >>    * but would be a convenience for "batch"/atomic changes to 
>> >> configuration
>> >> values -
>> >>    * this is possible if we switch from volatile to a r/w locking 
>> >> mechanism
>> >>   */
>> >>   public void reconfigure (GOPConfig config) {
>> >>        mut1 = config.getMut1;
>> >>        mut2  = config.getMut2;
>> >>   }
>> >>
>> >>   public void setMut1 (int m) {
>> >>      mut1 = m;
>> >>   }
>> >>
>> >>   public int getMut1 () {
>> >>       return mut1;
>> >>   }
>> >>
>> >>   ....
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> I wonder, with this model....what is the reason for having an immutable
>> >> configuration instance if we're going to copy the values locally for (at
>> >> least) mutability purposes?  I believe the attraction of the immutable
>> >> configuration instance was for concurrency issues...but with this model, 
>> >> we
>> >> would need to use pool-local syncronization (locking) anyway.
>> >>
>> >> I wrote a quick mock-up implementation like this, using a
>> >> ReentrantReadWriteLock, and the amount of concurrency work in each
>> >> pool/factory started to pile up.  We already identified that inheritance 
>> >> of
>> >> the Pool/Factory classes might not be the best approach (I agree with this
>> >> as well...which would cause POOL-177 to no longer be implemented)...so 
>> >> this
>> >> means duplication of synchronization code as well.
>> >>
>> >> I think I'm falling back to my initial thought on this in that the config
>> >> classes should, IMO, either be mutable (where appropriate) and made thread
>> >> safe (internally synchronized) to reduce the amount of concurrency work
>> >> needed in each class that aggregates the instance...or immutable and any
>> >> changes to the config instance needs to be done by going back to the
>> Builder
>> >> (something like new Builder(configInstance).change().create());) and then
>> >> the config reference in each pool/factory could be made volatile.
>> >>
>> >> I know this is confusing in email....I would be glad to create a quick
>> patch
>> >> or UML for this to clear things up if this would help.
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> S
>> >
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