On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Benedikt Ritter
<b...@systemoutprintln.de> wrote:
> Am 16.01.2012 16:16, schrieb sebb:
>
>> On 16 January 2012 15:02, Christian Grobmeier<grobme...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually Simone has already brought up a bootstrap'ped variant of the
>>> Commons homepage I liked very much. Not sure what was the problem with
>>> that.
>>
>>
>> The major problem was that it did not meet the branding requirements.
>
>
> I have created a jira issue:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMMONSSITE-65
>
> What do you think about my idea of providing a road map for every project?

Basically yes, but I am afraid that some components do not have a road
map because they are not maintained to well (like Jelly for example or
logging). I guess only a few components have enough steam to work
after a roadmap (like math maybe)


>
> Best regards
>
>
>>
>>> We should put it on our table again, as the current Commons site
>>> looks like we are jdk 1.3 users (ok, we support 1.3 on some places,
>>> but this does not mean we should be proud of that ;-))
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Benedikt Ritter
>>> <b...@systemoutprintln.de>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> looking at the different commons project pages, it occurs to me, that
>>>> all
>>>> pages use a slightly different layout. For example comparing Lang,
>>>> BeanUtils
>>>> and Collections with one another the first thing are the page titles:
>>>>
>>>> - Home
>>>> - BeanUtils - Commons
>>>> - Collections - Home
>>>>
>>>> If I were to rate this titles, I would say that "BeanUtils - Commons" is
>>>> the
>>>> best one, followed by "Collections - Home". "Home" from Lang's project
>>>> page
>>>> is clearly the worst page title I can think of.
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the content area, there is not much to complain about. All
>>>> three
>>>> content areas are structured nearly the same way (although IMHO
>>>> BeanUtils
>>>> content area is a bit overloaded with release informations).
>>>>
>>>> When it comes to the sidebar, things get completely inconsistent.
>>>> First of all: Why doesn't Lang's homepage has a link so ApacheCon?
>>>> Why does BeanUtils have a Documentation are and a Project Documentation
>>>> area?
>>>> Where do I get all the informations about developing BeanUtils from (as
>>>> Lang
>>>> and Collections have a distinct development area)?
>>>> Why does Lang's ASF area have more links than the ones of the others?
>>>> Why do the release history pages of all three projects look so
>>>> completely
>>>> different?
>>>>
>>>> In addition to that, I think that one thing is really missing on all of
>>>> the
>>>> three above mentioned pages: There is no road map for future releases!
>>>> How
>>>> can I know if I should wait for the next Collections release, that
>>>> provides
>>>> generics or better start my new project using the latest release? Maybe
>>>> it
>>>> will be out next week, maybe I have to wait one year. I don't know...
>>>> There
>>>> really has to be a road map, so that the users know when they can expect
>>>> the
>>>> next release and what they can expect from it.
>>>>
>>>> I guess, I have made my point clear, and I bet that looking at other
>>>> commons
>>>> project pages would result in finding even more layout variants.
>>>> I don't want to study the page layout all over again, when I browse
>>>> through
>>>> the different project pages. I want everything to be at the same place
>>>> (as
>>>> far as possible). So I propose to unify all page layouts. This post is
>>>> not
>>>> supposed to present the perfect layout, but rather be a discussion
>>>> starter
>>>> on how such a layout could look like (if you guys think that a unified
>>>> layout is needed at all...).
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Benedikt
>>>>
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