On 1 April 2012 06:18, Stefan Bodewig <bode...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 2012-04-01, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
>> I have real problems with Gump. I find it very difficult to determine
>> what the problem actually is much less diagnose it. Other than that I
>> know it is supposed to be using the latest source in trunk it is tough
>> to figure out how to reproduce a problem as it means manually going to
>> all the dependencies and building them from trunk and then modifying
>> poms to use them.
>
> Agreed, but I wouldn't know of a simpler way to do it.  In theory you
> could do a bisect on all changes of all dependencies until you identify
> the change that introduced a breakage on the Gump side, but that's
> non-trivial and will likely never happen given the limited development
> resources at Gump.
>
> Of course the process is easier for projects with a small transitive
> hull of dependencies 8-)
>
>> I know its purpose is to try to catch errors early, but it looks to me
>> like people are just giving up trying to fix them.  Frankly, I think
>> the only reason people do tis to try to stop the emails.
>
> I think you are correct.  Many projects have stopped seeing value in
> Gump and only view it as a nuisance (or ignore it), I don't know what to
> do about it either.

Or educate people on why the Gump errors can be useful?
And how to debug them...

It recently found a bug in a Lang test case (different order of test
execution exposed cleanup failures).

And this particular error seems to be the same cause (see else-thread).

> Another way to get rid of the emails is to remove the nag element from
> the Gump descriptor.
>
> Stefan
>
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