I see. That makes sense now.

Thanks.

On Thursday, July 11, 2013, Phil Steitz wrote:

> On 7/11/13 12:09 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
> > Hi Ajo,
> >
> > Le 11/07/2013 20:38, Ajo Fod a écrit :
> >> More classes can be used/extended if fields generally default to
> protected
> >> instead of private as it seems it does in classes in CM now.
> >>
> >> Case in point is in : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MATH-1003
> > In fact, having protected members is often not considered a good thing.
> > If for example you look at checkstyle VisibilityModifier check, you will
> > see that its protectedAllowed property is set to false by default.
> >
> > For Apache Commons Math, we have decided to not use the default value
> > and our setting in checkstyle.xml explicitly put protectedAllowed to
> > true. However, this does not mean everything should be protected by
> > default. It is rather a case by case decision, and we have a tendency to
> > prefer restricting access than opening it.: as you have noticed there
> > are more private than protected fields.
> >
> > In many cases, including the one you mention for inverting diagonal
> > matrices, its seems safer to add a protected getter for the field than
> > putting the field itself protected. It allows read only access to
> > derived class which seems sufficient in this case. In some other cases,
> > a setter may also be added, but direct reference to the field itself is
> > a dangerous thing that should be looked at precisely.
>
> +1 - we have mostly moved away from protected fields in commons
> because once defined they become part of the public API.  This
> effectively locks us in to the specific data representation chosen
> when they are defined, as well as obviously to the fields
> themselves.  Changing types or visibility breaks backward
> compatibility. Protected fields are also directly mutable, making
> thread-safety more difficult / expensive to ensure.
>
> Phil
> >
> > best regards,
> > Luc
> >
> >> Cheers,
> >> Ajo
> >>
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