On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Henri Yandell <flame...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:29 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 21 October 2013 11:52, Benedikt Ritter <benerit...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > Send from my mobile device
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>> >> Am 21.10.2013 um 03:46 schrieb sebb <seb...@gmail.com>:
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>> >>> On 20 October 2013 15:03, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>> I agree. If we don't deprecate it now, and agree to release the next
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>> >>> version targeting Java 7, we would remove those methods without ever
>> >>> mentioning it before.
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>> >> That's not how I see it working.
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>> >> I think the deprecations should be added once the code requires a
>> >> minimum of Java 7.
>> >> Later on, the deprecated methods are removed if required (they could
>> be left).
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>> >> In any case, removal of the deprecated methods is not binary
>> >> compatible, so new package/Maven coords are needed.
>> >> In which case, it's not really a problem that the methods are not
>> >> deprecated first.
>> >> It would be sufficient to note the replacements in the release notes.
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>> >> Deprecation is only useful to users of a library if there is a
>> >> replacement they can use.
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>> > There is a replacement as Hen has pointed out. What you're saying is
>> that the replacement has to be part of the library, right?
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>> Not necessarily, the replacement could be part of standard Java classes.
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>> But I don't think it's right to require users to migrate to a later
>> version of Java than is required by the library itself in order to
>> avoid the deprecation warning.
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>> And as I already wrote, it's important that deprecation warnings are
>> removed (not suppressed) in the library itself.
>> That is necessary to show that the deprecation makes sense.
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> What's your solution, Sebb, to indicate that we plan to remove this code
> in 4.0?
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Or I could need sleep. I was on the subject of deprecating the time
package. :(

Hen

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