On 15 April 2016 at 02:19, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sebb, > > I don't know why you think I could distinguish the following possible > behaviors of prior RMs with a reasonable level of effort:
As I have already said, I don't use the plugin. However I have followed release votes and AFAICR the final tag never been created before the vote completed. In all cases I can remember, the final tag is created once the vote has completed. And I am pretty certain other RMs have used the release plugin. So it seems clear to me that something has gone wrong here. I don't know what, so I think we need input from an RM who has used the release plugin. They should be able to point out what is missing from the instructions. > 1: didn't use the maven-release-plugin > 2: did use the maven-release-plugin and then used svn mvn to rename > the tag it created > 3: did use the maven-release-plugin, typed 'commons-io-2.x-RCy' at the > prompt, and released with a pom with an incorrect scm element. > 4: something else I didn't think of. > > I didn't volunteer to be an archaeologist, I volunteered to be a > release manager.. > > At best, the doc is, as I wrote to start this conversation, > incomplete, in that it does not give specific instructions for > achieving the PMC's goals using the plugin. > > To me, the following sequence is inoffensive: > > 1: run release:prepare, creating a premature 'real' tag. > 2: svn mv to convert that tag to an -RC tag. > 3: svn mv again to convert it to a (conventionally) immutable 'real > tag' if the vote passes. > > However, what I find inoffensive isn't important here. I'm not a PMC > member here. If this PMC has a strong policy of tag immutability, then > this PMC needs to document a procedure that both treats tags as > immutable and creates completely correct poms, including the scm > element that has to anticipate the eventual tag. It could create that > policy by erasing any mention of release:prepare, or by filling in the > missing details (though I continue to believe that there is no way to > make it come out the way you want.) > > Believe me, if I ever RM another commons release, I won't use > release:prepare until and unless someone writes up a step-by-step > guide that leads me to do so in an acceptable way. > > If you examine the 'tags' directory in svn right now, you will see > that it contains what I believe that you want it to contain: no > commons-io-2.5 tag, but rather a commons-io-2.5-RC4 tag. So, I > respectfully submit that we could proceed to decide if this release is > good enough, and sort out the documentation later. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org