Gilles wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:04:48 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> From the Peanut Gallery, >> >> All of this discussion on (too many at once) [VOTE] threads suggest >> to me that the [VOTE]s are premature. >> >> I don't understand the inclination to conduct [VOTE]s here that are >> at best straw votes and generally serve to establish that there is no >> consensus because of all the qualifications that are placed on the >> few >> [VOTE]s that are apparently cast in the blur of discussions. >> >> I think the key matter is that there is not enough discussion to >> tease out consensus and even find opportunities for lazy consensus. >> Then a [VOTE] becomes a formal ratification in those rare cases where >> such a thing is required (e.g., to back up a personnel action or take >> a resolution to the Board). >> >> I think these discussions about clustering/splitting the Commons Math >> components are very useful and interesting to observe. The use of >> [VOTE] is worrisome and apparently useless other than for the >> attention it evokes. > > There was a vote because Jörg saw it as useful in order to decide > about the next step: > http://markmail.org/message/2lvirahwxerq36d2 > > How much longer should we rehash the same arguments from all sides?
The main problem is that the complete situation is unique. There has been no precedence for such a case so far. I cannot think of splitting a commons component in the last decade. If the intent is to go TLP with complete CM and the resubmit some basic stuff in a view light-weight new components for Commons. For those we might as well shorten this path and take the direct way. Especially since two attempts to vote for TLP got us nowhere until now. > The bottom-line of all this is that there are people (new and old > contributors to CM) who wish to do things, and everything that they > say _they_ will do is blocked by people who never contributed to CM > and do not intend to. Again. Ouch. - Jörg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
