On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Simon Spero <sesunc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is a one other compatibility issue, which can be seen in the attached > code: > > import java.nio.charset.StandardCharsets; > > public class Weasel { > > private static final String US_ASCII = "US-ASCII"; > private static final String UTF_8 = "UTF-8"; > private static final String STANDARD_US_ASCII = > StandardCharsets.US_ASCII.name(); > private static final String STANDARD_UTF_8 = > StandardCharsets.UTF_8.name > (); > > public static void main(String[] args) { > > switch (args[0]) { > case US_ASCII: > System.out.println("USA! USA!"); > break; > case UTF_8: > System.out.println("Emoji Lovin' Hippies!"); > break; > default: > System.out.println("Weirdo."); > } > } > } > > > This code compiles. > However, if the case labels are changed to STANDARD_US_ASCII and > STANDARD_UTF_8, the compilation will fail, because the case labels are no > longer constant expressions. > In the actual code, this means that code compiled against an older version > of the library would work against the new code (because the old strings had > already been inlined), but could not be re-compiled. > Thank you for doing this research and POC :-) But Ugh! :-( We shot ourselves in the foot here. Benedikt, how do you feel about a fix and a new RC? Gary > > I don't know why anyone would be doing this... > > (CLIRR pre-dates string switches) > > Simon > > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 5:10 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 8 June 2017 at 18:09, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 9:57 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> On 8 June 2017 at 17:19, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 5:38 AM, Simon Spero <sesunc...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> [A Note, not a vote :) ] > > >> >> > > >> >> 1. Clirr is generally considered obsolete, as it hadn't been worked > > on > > >> for > > >> >> about ten years. japicmp is a good replacement, especially for > > report > > >> >> generation, and is used in other commons projects. > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > IIRC, we've started using japicm here and there. Each component can > > >> decide. > > >> > But yes, Clirr looks pretty dead. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> 2. Are the "changes" to the values in CharEncoding really > > necessary[1] > > >> (The > > >> >> deprecation surely is). Technically this is a potentially breaking > > >> binary > > >> >> incompatible change, as constant strings and primitives are inlined > > at > > >> >> compile time. [2] > > >> >> In this particular case, the results of load-time evaluation of the > > new > > >> >> initialization expressions are identical to the old constants, so > > it's > > >> >> behaviourally compatible; however, since this is the case, and > since > > >> it's > > >> >> all deprecated anyway, why not leave the old values in-place? > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > The changes are not "necessary" that for sure and we do get Clirr > > >> warnings: > > >> > > > >> > Value of field ISO_8859_1 is no longer a compile-time constant > > >> > Value of field US_ASCII is no longer a compile-time constant > > >> > Value of field UTF_16 is no longer a compile-time constant > > >> > Value of field UTF_16BE is no longer a compile-time constant > > >> > Value of field UTF_16LE is no longer a compile-time constant > > >> > Value of field UTF_8 is no longer a compile-time constant > > >> > > > >> > It's source compatible. What is the issue at runtime that could hurt > > >> users? > > >> > > >> As the OP wrote, constants are inlined by the compiler. > > >> So unless all code is recompiled, if it referenced the constant it may > > >> have a stale value. > > >> That is not binary compatible. > > >> > > > > > > But in this case the actual values are the same are they not? So what > is > > > the difference? Would this only be a problem if we changed the string > > > values? > > > > AFAIK the compiler only inlines compile-time constants. > > So going forward, the values won't be inlined. > > I assume the behaviour will be unaffected since the runtime value > > should be the same as the constant. > > > > The release notes really ought to explain why the Clirr report items > > aren't a problem. > > > > > Which we can't since these are defined in the JRE. And the JRE is > > > unlikely to change those. > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > >> >> 3. JDK9 adds some extra parameters to the Deprecated annotation > (most > > >> >> notably forRemoval=true, which is used to indicate that the > > annotated > > >> item > > >> >> is really really deprecated.) It's not needed in this case, but > is > > >> worth > > >> >> thinking about when jdk9 is eventually released (latest schedule > > >> change : > > >> >> from 7/27/2017 to 9/21/2017). > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > I do not think we plan on making Java 9 a requirement for any > current > > >> > project. > > >> > > > >> > Gary > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> Simon > > >> >> > > >> >> [1] https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/commit/7c19a1ff4c217 > > >> >> f03c0be62baf1169d689f566825#diff-820a48456e11e85bf6cf5356c1aed4 > baR48 > > >> >> > > >> >> [2] https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se8/html/jls- > > >> >> 13.html#jls-13.4.9 > > >> >> > > >> >> On Jun 8, 2017 4:48 AM, "Benedikt Ritter" <brit...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> > Hello, > > >> >> > > > >> >> > we have fixed quite a few bugs and added some nice new features > > since > > >> >> > Commons Lang 3.5 was released, so I would like to release Commons > > Lang > > >> >> 3.6 > > >> >> > based on RC3. > > >> >> > The following issues have been fixed since RC2: > > >> >> > > > >> >> > - Site build now works from source distribution > > >> >> > - IBM JDK test failures have been fixed > > >> >> > - Automatic-Module-Name MANIFEST entry has been added for Java 9 > > >> >> > compatibility > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Commons Lang 3.6 R3 is available for review here: > > >> >> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/lang (svn > revision > > >> >> 19928) > > >> >> > > > >> >> > The tag is here: > > >> >> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=commons-lang.git; > > a=tag;h= > > >> >> > e454e79463ffbbd9114db43019dd211debbcc105 > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Commit ID the tag points at: > > >> >> > 360198dfb6a2d68f1702f616dfacee34ae0541bb > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Maven Artifacts: > > >> >> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/ > > >> >> orgapachecommons-1250 > > >> >> > > > >> >> > These are the Maven artifacts and their hashes: > > >> >> > > > >> >> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6- > > javadoc.jar > > >> >> > (SHA1: c8adadb6c0b56c73f2cc2b4c77a09bfe34ec3a66) > > >> >> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6- > > >> sources.jar.asc > > >> >> > (SHA1: 46347c179ca9246d146d653bdc7363bda6f17d44) > > >> >> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6.pom.asc > > >> >> > (SHA1: 1309d4f3dd41a01ff9dd1f3c1a6eee10dad1ef77) > > >> >> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6.pom > > >> >> > (SHA1: 0fb4499188c94c63b3cba44f12481e193708c4a8) > > >> >> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6.jar.asc > > >> >> > (SHA1: e67e7d44751f1e346c2fda496193cbe251cfe098) > > >> >> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6- > > >> javadoc.jar.asc > > >> >> > (SHA1: 6b19fa12d319ced69c0f8a27001569514711f9dc) > > >> >> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6- > > sources.jar > > >> >> > (SHA1: f89c1df082d6f67cb7c956715c56d7e7a0508d0a) > > >> >> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6.jar > > >> >> > (SHA1: e58ba08b01d37a023746f0987dcd910036a63021) > > >> >> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6- > > tests.jar.asc > > >> >> > (SHA1: af050e8c29a801a5d6783268c56230b814f56240) > > >> >> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6- > > >> >> > test-sources.jar.asc > > >> >> > (SHA1: 71e4c11efb9e3b2eff402ba4648d21822fb8da4a) > > >> >> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6- > > >> test-sources.jar > > >> >> > (SHA1: 04a0fc8293d4ed64a54dcc9ba5f996776a4657ea) > > >> >> > /org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.6/commons-lang3-3.6- > tests.jar > > >> >> > (SHA1: 87993a16c14a251062e3fe860fa53b5ef5304a0f) > > >> >> > > > >> >> > I have tested this with JDK 7, JDK 8 and JDK 9 EA b172 using > Maven > > >> 3.5.0. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Details of changes since 3.5 are in the release notes: > > >> >> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/lang/RELEASE- > > >> NOTES.txt > > >> >> > http://home.apache.org/~britter/commons/lang/LANG_3_6_ > > >> >> > RC3/changes-report.html > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Site: > > >> >> > http://home.apache.org/~britter/commons/lang/LANG_3_6_RC3 > > >> >> > (note some *relative* links are broken and the 3.6 directories > are > > >> >> > not yet created - these will be OK once the site is deployed) > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Clirr Report (compared to 3.5): > > >> >> > http://home.apache.org/~britter/commons/lang/LANG_3_6_ > > >> >> > RC3/clirr-report.html > > >> >> > > > >> >> > RAT Report: > > >> >> > http://home.apache.org/~britter/commons/lang/LANG_3_6_ > > >> >> > RC3/rat-report.html > > >> >> > > > >> >> > KEYS: > > >> >> > https://www.apache.org/dist/commons/KEYS > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Please review the release candidate and vote. > > >> >> > This vote will close no sooner that 72 hours from now, > > >> >> > i.e. sometime after 11:00 CEST (UTC+2) 11-June 2017 > > >> >> > > > >> >> > [ ] +1 Release these artifacts > > >> >> > [ ] +0 OK, but... > > >> >> > [ ] -0 OK, but really should fix... > > >> >> > [ ] -1 I oppose this release because... > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Thanks! > > >> >> > Benedikt > > >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > --------- > > >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > >> > > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > > >