On 16 June 2018 at 22:41, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Mark and all,
>
> Thank you for the heads up on the Tomcat plans.
>
> Asking DBCP to stay on Java 7 for 4-5 years is insane IMO, and it certainly
> is not going to attract anyone to maintain and grow this component (IMO
> again.) If that is a set of handcuffs you want to live with, then by all
> means ;-)
>
> I am sure there is nothing stopping anyone at Apache to keep patches coming
> to the DBCP 2.4.x line. I plan on keeping the release train going for many
> Commons component, so I am happy to release DBCP at will.
>
> You will notice that
> https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-dbcp/download_dbcp.cgi presents
> no less than tree different versions of DBCP for different antique Java
> platforms. We are just going to make that list one deeper.

I think we can now drop support for JDBC 3 and JDBC 4 (Java 6)
That leaves only JDBC 4.1 (Java 7.0) as a current release.

Is that really too much to continue to support?

> Again, patches are more than welcome. And do feel free to call for a RC or
> RM it yourself ;-)
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 2:34 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On 16/06/18 21:14, Matt Sicker wrote:
>> > On 16 June 2018 at 14:11, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> What is driving the desire to move to Java 8?
>> >>
>> >
>> > What's driving the desire to maintain support for a seven year old
>> release
>> > of Java which is not supported without paying large sums of money to
>> > Oracle?
>>
>> As I said, Tomcat 8 which has at least another 4 to 5 years of life in
>> it, depends on DBCP 2 and has a specification mandated requirement to
>> maintain compatibility with Java 7.
>>
>> There are ways the Tomcat community could work around this. Because Java
>> 7 is EOL does not - on its own - strike me as a sufficiently good reason
>> to create hassle for another ASF community.
>>
>> If there are new features in Java 8 we want to take advantage of or an
>> update to the JDBC API that we want to support then fair enough. Those
>> are good reasons but I'd like to see them explicitly articulated.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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