The bar to become an ASF committer is high. For example I am not an ASF committer yet, while I think I have the ability to be one, but nope until we meet some uncertain bar. And the bar is unclear to me, which is the worst part.
Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> 于2022年4月22日周五 01:57写道: > What I mean is that Commons is open to any ASF committers, so the bar > to committing is super low. If you can handle the non-PMC-specific > parts of the release process (mainly having it all ready to run the > commands), then a PMC member can help with release signing and all > that. Volunteering to manage releases is a great way to get invited > into the PMC, too, so keep that in mind. > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:36 PM Xeno Amess <xenoam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > @Matt Sicker > > > > Like what I said before, there be no current active commons committers > who > > interested in developing bean-utils. > > > > For example, commons-math have sebb, commons-lang & text & vfs have gary, > > commons-compress have peterAL, but seems nobody is interested in > > commons-beanutils > > > > Currently Gary maintains it, but he is busy, he maintains all > commons-lib. > > There be no enough time for him one person to maintain such a lib, > > especially a lib who lack lots of refines(considering comparing with same > > utility in other libs, like what in Spring) > > > > So I really think it be good to have 1 or 2 new committers for > > maintaining commons-beanutils > > > > Melloware Inc <melloware...@gmail.com> 于2022年4月21日周四 09:57写道: > > > > > Matt, > > > > > > I totally agree. I asked over and over for almost a year for a > release. > > > > > > I understand the contributors are busy. I was submitting PRs that were > > > not getting reviewed and merged. I have a client that had 2 > concerns…the > > > security findings and the fact it still used commons collections 3 > instead > > > of 4. > > > > > > I literally tried everything to get this Jar released you can look back > > > through the mailing list. So I finally resorted to “I have no choice > but > > > to release this myself”. > > > > > > I absolutely did NOT want to. But what else is the community to do > when > > > an open source library goes 5+ years between releases??? > > > > > > Melloware > > > @melloware on GitHub > > > > > > > On Apr 20, 2022, at 8:09 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I don’t see why that couldn’t have been done here. There’s no need > to > > > fork Commons projects when they’re fairly open to contributors. > > > > > > > > — > > > > Matt Sicker > > > > > > > >> On Apr 20, 2022, at 16:19, Melloware Inc <melloware...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> It was supposed to be temporary until Apache released 2.0. It’s > been > > > over 5 years since last beanutils release so it’s a good thing I did > in my > > > opinion. > > > >> > > > >> Melloware > > > >> @melloware on GitHub > > > >> > > > >>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> You are crearting jar hell by reusing the Apache package names > under > > > >>> different Maven coordinates. Not a good idea IMO. > > > >>> > > > >>> Gary > > > >>> > > > >>>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 15:27 Melloware <melloware...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I did not the package names are the same I did this because I had > > > >>>> multiple clients complaining about Commons Beantutils 1.9.4 > security > > > >>>> vulnerabilities and needed a public version of the code so it > could be > > > >>>> scanned. Whenever the REAL BeanUtils2 is ever released to Maven > > > Central > > > >>>> my clients can simply change their pom.xml back to org.apache > versions > > > >>>> and they are a drop in. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> On 4/20/2022 2:26 PM, sebb wrote: > > > >>>>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 at 18:54, Melloware <melloware...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >>>>>> And and I have forked it and deployed to Maven Central > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> <dependency> > > > >>>>>> <groupId>com.melloware</groupId> > > > >>>>>> <artifactId>commons-beanutils2</artifactId> > > > >>>>>> <version>2.0.0</version> > > > >>>>>> </dependency> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> Did you change the package names? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> If not, there will be problems in the future if a project > depends on > > > >>>>> both via different dependencies. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> On 4/20/2022 10:12 AM, Xeno Amess wrote: > > > >>>>>>> Well I wonder should we give melloware ( > > > https://github.com/melloware) > > > >>>> a > > > >>>>>>> committer permission. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Since: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> 1. he has quite some experience here, not a fresh hand. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> 2. he has ability to write/review good codes.(already several > > > thousands > > > >>>>>>> lines in common-beanutils). > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> 3. he has enough time and interest to refine beanutils. (This > is > > > the > > > >>>> most > > > >>>>>>> important, as it seems no committers want to develop > beanutils...) > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Any thoughts? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> 于2022年4月20日周三 21:00写道: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> There isn't one; we are all volunteers here ;-) > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> There is probably clean up to do, PRs, Jiras, releasing and > > > synching > > > >>>> with > > > >>>>>>>> Commons Collections 4.5 first (probably). > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Gary > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 07:21 Martin Aldrin > > > >>>>>>>> <martin.ald...@ericsson.com.invalid> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi, > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> I wonder what the time plan for release of beanutils2 is. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> /Martin > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > >