<For example, the standalone code takes note of LD_LIBRARY_PATH when
loading the dll, whereas Java apparently does not.>

I experience the same behavior.  What's more interesting is that when I run
the main function from Eclipse as a Run Configuration with the
LD_LIBRARY_PATH set  as an Environment variable appended to the native
environment, it runs as expected.  As of yet I haven't found a way to get
the java CLI to recognize the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, even
though it echos out correctly when queried.  Strange.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 9:39 AM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've started copying bits of the C code to create a standalone tool to
> load the dll and report some info.
>
> No idea why yet, but it behaves differently from basically the same
> code when run via JNI.
>
> For example, the standalone code takes note of LD_LIBRARY_PATH when
> loading the dll, whereas Java apparently does not.
>
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 at 13:22, Alex Remily <alex.rem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I also get the "Error looking up function 'ENGINE_load_rdrand'" when I
> run
> > the Jna test class from the command line.  Interesting.  dlopen finds the
> > LibreSSL when run from the CLI.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 8:02 AM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > That looks fine, however I don't see the same, and nor does GH.
> > >
> > > What version of macOS are you using?
> > >
> > > On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 at 12:52, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > With the 1.1.0 tagm I get:
> > > >
> > > >  garydgregory@xxx  ~/git/commons-crypto  ➦ 3b2561b  java -cp
> > > > target/classes org.apache.commons.crypto.Crypto
> > > > Apache Commons Crypto 1.1.0
> > > > Native code loaded OK: 1.1.0
> > > > Native name: Apache Commons Crypto
> > > > Native built: Jun 30 2022
> > > > OpenSSL library loaded OK, version: 0x1010107f
> > > > OpenSSL library info: OpenSSL 1.1.1g  21 Apr 2020
> > > > Random instance created OK:
> > > > org.apache.commons.crypto.random.OpenSslCryptoRandom@266474c2
> > > > Cipher AES/CTR/NoPadding instance created OK:
> > > > org.apache.commons.crypto.cipher.OpenSslCipher@66d3c617
> > > > Additional OpenSSL_version(n) details:
> > > > 1: compiler: clang -fPIC -arch x86_64 -O3 -Wall -DL_ENDIAN
> > > > -DOPENSSL_PIC -DOPENSSL_CPUID_OBJ -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2
> > > > -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT5 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_GF2m
> > > > -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM -DKECCAK1600_ASM -DRC4_ASM
> > > > -DMD5_ASM -DAESNI_ASM -DVPAES_ASM -DGHASH_ASM -DECP_NISTZ256_ASM
> > > > -DX25519_ASM -DPOLY1305_ASM -D_REENTRANT -DNDEBUG
> > > > 2: built on: Tue Apr 21 13:30:00 2020 UTC
> > > > 3: platform: darwin64-x86_64-cc
> > > > 4: OPENSSLDIR: "/usr/local/etc/openssl@1.1"
> > > > 5: ENGINESDIR: "/usr/local/Cellar/openssl@1.1
> /1.1.1g/lib/engines-1.1"
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > >  garydgregory@xxx ~/git/commons-crypto  ➦ 3b2561b  mvn -q
> exec:java
> > > > -D"exec.mainClass=org.apache.commons.crypto.jna.OpenSslJna"
> > > > isEnabled(): true
> > > > initialisationError(): null
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 7:18 AM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, 1.1.0 builds OK on macOS, but the sample classes fail.
> > > > >
> > > > > As previously noted, please try:
> > > > > java -cp target/classes org.apache.commons.crypto.Crypto
> > > > > and
> > > > > mvn -q exec:java
> > > -D"exec.mainClass=org.apache.commons.crypto.jna.OpenSslJna"
> > > > >
> > > > > See the GH run I linked yesterday:
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/commons-crypto/actions/runs/2586011129
> > > > >
> > > > > I just noticed also that 'openssl version' shows 1.1.1p but the
> Crypto
> > > > > class shows
> > > > > OpenSSL library info: LibreSSL 2.2.9 (on current code; the 1.11.0
> code
> > > crashes)
> > > > >
> > > > > Something strange is going on; it looks like dlopen is finding a
> > > > > different version of the dynamic library from the default CLI.
> > > > > I have the same issue on my mac.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 at 01:50, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FWIW, I just checked out the rel/commons-crypto-1.1.0 on macOS
> and
> > > ran
> > > > > > 'mvn clean verify' and everything built just fine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Maven ant-run output was:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [INFO] --- maven-antrun-plugin:1.8:run (make) @ commons-crypto
> ---
> > > > > > [INFO] Executing tasks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > make:
> > > > > >      [exec] "/usr/local/Cellar/openjdk@8/1.8.0+322/bin/javah"
> -force
> > > > > > -classpath target/classes -o
> > > > > >
> > >
> target/jni-classes/org/apache/commons/crypto/random/OpenSslCryptoRandomNative.h
> > > > > > org.apache.commons.crypto.random.OpenSslCryptoRandomNative
> > > > > >      [exec] gcc -arch x86_64 -Ilib/inc_mac
> > > > > > -I"/usr/local/Cellar/openjdk@8/1.8.0+322/include" -O2 -fPIC
> > > > > > -mmacosx-version-min=10.7 -fvisibility=hidden
> -I/usr/local/include
> > > > > > -I/usr/local/opt/openssl/include -Ilib/include -I/usr/include
> > > > > > -I"src/main/native/org/apache/commons/crypto/"
> > > > > > -I"/usr/local/Cellar/openjdk@8
> > > /1.8.0+322/libexec/openjdk.jdk/Contents/Home/include/darwin"
> > > > > > -I"target/jni-classes/org/apache/commons/crypto/cipher"
> > > > > > -I"target/jni-classes/org/apache/commons/crypto/random" -c
> > > > > >
> > >
> src/main/native/org/apache/commons/crypto/random/OpenSslCryptoRandomNative.c
> > > > > > -o
> target/commons-crypto-1.1.0-Mac-x86_64/OpenSslCryptoRandomNative.o
> > > > > >      [exec] "/usr/local/Cellar/openjdk@8/1.8.0+322/bin/javah"
> -force
> > > > > > -classpath target/classes -o
> > > > > >
> target/jni-classes/org/apache/commons/crypto/cipher/OpenSslNative.h
> > > > > > org.apache.commons.crypto.cipher.OpenSslNative
> > > > > >      [exec] gcc -arch x86_64 -Ilib/inc_mac
> > > > > > -I"/usr/local/Cellar/openjdk@8/1.8.0+322/include" -O2 -fPIC
> > > > > > -mmacosx-version-min=10.7 -fvisibility=hidden
> -I/usr/local/include
> > > > > > -I/usr/local/opt/openssl/include -Ilib/include -I/usr/include
> > > > > > -I"src/main/native/org/apache/commons/crypto/"
> > > > > > -I"/usr/local/Cellar/openjdk@8
> > > /1.8.0+322/libexec/openjdk.jdk/Contents/Home/include/darwin"
> > > > > > -I"target/jni-classes/org/apache/commons/crypto/cipher"
> > > > > > -I"target/jni-classes/org/apache/commons/crypto/random" -c
> > > > > > src/main/native/org/apache/commons/crypto/cipher/OpenSslNative.c
> -o
> > > > > > target/commons-crypto-1.1.0-Mac-x86_64/OpenSslNative.o
> > > > > >      [exec] "/usr/local/Cellar/openjdk@8/1.8.0+322/bin/javah"
> -force
> > > > > > -classpath target/classes -o
> > > > > > target/jni-classes/org/apache/commons/crypto/OpenSslInfoNative.h
> > > > > > org.apache.commons.crypto.OpenSslInfoNative
> > > > > >      [exec] gcc -arch x86_64 -Ilib/inc_mac
> > > > > > -I"/usr/local/Cellar/openjdk@8/1.8.0+322/include" -O2 -fPIC
> > > > > > -mmacosx-version-min=10.7 -fvisibility=hidden
> -I/usr/local/include
> > > > > > -I/usr/local/opt/openssl/include -Ilib/include -I/usr/include
> > > > > > -I"src/main/native/org/apache/commons/crypto/"
> > > > > > -I"/usr/local/Cellar/openjdk@8
> > > /1.8.0+322/libexec/openjdk.jdk/Contents/Home/include/darwin"
> > > > > > -I"target/jni-classes/org/apache/commons/crypto/cipher"
> > > > > > -I"target/jni-classes/org/apache/commons/crypto/random"
> > > > > > -DVERSION='"1.1.0"' -DPROJECT_NAME='"Apache Commons Crypto"'
> > > > > > -I"target/jni-classes/org/apache/commons/crypto" -c
> > > > > > src/main/native/org/apache/commons/crypto/OpenSslInfoNative.c -o
> > > > > > target/commons-crypto-1.1.0-Mac-x86_64/OpenSslInfoNative.o
> > > > > >      [exec] gcc -arch x86_64 -Ilib/inc_mac
> > > > > > -I"/usr/local/Cellar/openjdk@8/1.8.0+322/include" -O2 -fPIC
> > > > > > -mmacosx-version-min=10.7 -fvisibility=hidden
> -I/usr/local/include
> > > > > > -I/usr/local/opt/openssl/include -Ilib/include  -I/usr/include
> > > > > > -I"/usr/local/Cellar/openjdk@8
> > > /1.8.0+322/libexec/openjdk.jdk/Contents/Home/include/darwin"
> > > > > > -I"target/jni-classes/org/apache/commons/crypto/cipher"
> > > > > > -I"target/jni-classes/org/apache/commons/crypto/random" -o
> > > > > > target/commons-crypto-1.1.0-Mac-x86_64/libcommons-crypto.jnilib
> > > > > >
> target/commons-crypto-1.1.0-Mac-x86_64/OpenSslCryptoRandomNative.o
> > > > > > target/commons-crypto-1.1.0-Mac-x86_64/OpenSslNative.o
> > > > > > target/commons-crypto-1.1.0-Mac-x86_64/OpenSslInfoNative.o
> > > -dynamiclib
> > > > > > -L/usr/local/lib
> > > > > >      [exec] strip -x
> > > > > > target/commons-crypto-1.1.0-Mac-x86_64/libcommons-crypto.jnilib
> > > > > >      [exec] cp
> > > target/commons-crypto-1.1.0-Mac-x86_64/libcommons-crypto.jnilib
> > > > > >
> > >
> target/classes/org/apache/commons/crypto/native/Mac/x86_64/libcommons-crypto.jnilib
> > > > > >      [exec] cp
> > > target/commons-crypto-1.1.0-Mac-x86_64/libcommons-crypto.jnilib
> > > > > >
> > >
> target/classes/org/apache/commons/crypto/native/Mac/x86_64/libcommons-crypto.jnilib
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gary
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 8:48 PM Gary Gregory <
> garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I agree with Alex.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Forget LibreSSL. Commons Crypto is for OpenSSL, nice, simple,
> and
> > > > > > > tight. Last time I checked I had an antique version of
> LibreSSL on
> > > my
> > > > > > > mac years ago, I just installed OpenSSL and never looked back.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gary
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 8:11 PM Alex Remily <
> alex.rem...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <The question is whether to do anything about the previously
> > > undetected
> > > > > > > > issues with JNA on macOS and Windows, and if so, whether this
> > > needs to
> > > > > > > > be done for the current or a later release. If we don't fix
> this
> > > > > > > > release, obviously it needs some mention in the release
> notes.>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I wouldn't characterize the issues running against LibreSSL
> as
> > > > > > > > "undetected".  I also don't see this as an issue with Mac or
> > > Windows, but
> > > > > > > > with LibreSSL.  Install any supported OpenSSL library on any
> > > supported
> > > > > > > > architecture (to include Mac and Windows) and all commons
> crypto
> > > > > > > > functionality is available.  I first encountered the rand
> issue
> > > you
> > > > > > > > describe years ago when I was becoming familiar with commons
> > > crypto.  I did
> > > > > > > > a little research, discovered that I was running LibreSSL
> (and
> > > an old
> > > > > > > > version at that), installed a supported version of OpenSSL
> and
> > > forgot
> > > > > > > > all about it until this thread.  I don't think it's
> unreasonable
> > > to expect
> > > > > > > > users to install a supported version of OpenSSL on a
> supported
> > > architecture
> > > > > > > > as a precondition of using commons crypto.  I think it could
> > > become
> > > > > > > > cumbersome to try and support every vendor default *SSL
> > > install.  That
> > > > > > > > said, I don't have a problem committing this particular
> "fix" to
> > > the
> > > > > > > > baseline, particularly since you have already done the
> work.  I
> > > just don't
> > > > > > > > think that the project should obligate itself to do so or
> > > advertise
> > > > > > > > LibreSSL (or any other non-OpenSSL branch) support as such.
> I'm
> > > advocating
> > > > > > > > a "use at your own risk" approach to anything but OpenSSL
> > > proper.  I agree
> > > > > > > > that we should update the documentation to reflect whatever
> we
> > > move forward
> > > > > > > > with.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyway, that's my $0.02 worth.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alex
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 6:14 PM sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 at 18:06, Gary Gregory <
> > > garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We cannot remove support for Windows and macOS, that's
> silly.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > AFAICT that means we must support the different set of
> > > function names
> > > > > > > > > in LibreSSL.
> > > > > > > > > Note that we only currently use a small proportion of them.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have not followed all the branches and commits, so I'm
> not
> > > sure what
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > current problems are, but I know I was able to release
> all
> > > OSs last go
> > > > > > > > > > around. I don't see why we need to rip out anything as
> > > fundamental.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well, I have tried running the Crypto and OpenSslJna main
> > > classes on
> > > > > > > > > macOS and Windows, and they both fail with the 1.1.0
> release.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > With current master, Crypto succeeds, but OpenSslJna fails
> to
> > > find
> > > > > > > > > ENGINE_load_rdrand on both macOS and Windows.
> > > > > > > > > (The job step succeeds, because the code catches the
> exception)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It looks like the test which would have exposed at least
> one
> > > of the
> > > > > > > > > issues was never enabled because of a failures on macOS;
> this
> > > hid the
> > > > > > > > > same problem on Windows.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am not suggesting we rip out anything at this point.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The question is whether to do anything about the previously
> > > undetected
> > > > > > > > > issues with JNA on macOS and Windows, and if so, whether
> this
> > > needs to
> > > > > > > > > be done for the current or a later release. If we don't fix
> > > this
> > > > > > > > > release, obviously it needs some mention in the release
> notes.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sebb
> > > > > > > > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/commons-crypto/actions/runs/2586011129
> > > > > > > > > > Gary
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022, 12:00 sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 at 16:11, Alex Remily <
> > > alex.rem...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Gary that we just don't support
> LibreSSL.
> > > To my
> > > > > > > > > knowledge
> > > > > > > > > > > > we've never advertised LibreSSL support, so I don't
> see
> > > it as an
> > > > > > > > > issue.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > In that case AFAICT we will have to drop *all* support
> for
> > > macOS and
> > > > > > > > > > > Windows, as they both seem to default to LibreSSL.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Note that adding support for LibreSSL was much easier
> for
> > > JNI, as it
> > > > > > > > > > > uses far fewer methods.
> > > > > > > > > > > Rather than checking the version, I changed the code to
> > > try OpenSSL
> > > > > > > > > > > 1.1 names first, then a fallback.
> > > > > > > > > > > That happens to work for 1.0.x and 1.1.x and LibreSSL.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > If you want to try it out, compare 16345bc (old) with
> > > 3ee3f65 (new)
> > > > > > > > > > > macOS fails on 16345bc because it now uses LibreSSL
> which
> > > has a
> > > > > > > > > > > different mix of names.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I think it's vital we support JNI as far as possible
> (and
> > > the code
> > > > > > > > > > > already does with commit 3ee3f65).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > However JNA is more of a backstop, so the fact that it
> has
> > > stopped
> > > > > > > > > > > working for macOS and Windows is less of an issue.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But I don't think we can say we are not supporting
> > > LibreSSL at all.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 10:21 AM sebb <
> seb...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 at 14:17, Gary Gregory <
> > > garydgreg...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The simple solution is to keep doing what we do
> now:
> > > only support
> > > > > > > > > > > OpenSSL
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and not whatever Apple does with LibreSSL which
> may
> > > or may not
> > > > > > > > > be up
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > date.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this also affects Windows.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have  Windows box at present, but I have
> seen
> > > this on GH
> > > > > > > > > > > Actions.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have a WIndows build, perhaps you could try
> > > these tests:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mvn -q exec:java
> > > > > > > > > -D"exec.mainClass=org.apache.commons.crypto.Crypto"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mvn -q exec:java
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > -D"exec.mainClass=org.apache.commons.crypto.jna.OpenSslJna"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The first one should show the SSL details; on GH
> the
> > > output
> > > > > > > > > includes:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenSSL library loaded OK, version: 0x20000000
> > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenSSL library info: LibreSSL 3.0.2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Additional OpenSSL_version(n) details:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4: OPENSSLDIR: "C:/Windows/libressl/ssl"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The second test crashes with:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Error looking up
> > > function
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 'ENGINE_load_rdrand': The specified procedure could
> > > not be found.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > isEnabled(): false
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > initialisationError():
> java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError:
> > > Error
> > > > > > > > > looking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > up function 'ENGINE_load_rdrand': The specified
> > > procedure could
> > > > > > > > > not be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > found.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > at com.sun.jna.Function.<init>(Function.java:252)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It would certainly be easier to ignore the problem
> for
> > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022, 06:59 sebb <
> seb...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like macOS 10.5+ and Windows (latest)
> use
> > > LibreSSL by
> > > > > > > > > > > default
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rather than OpenSSL.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The LibreSSL API does not have the same
> functions
> > > as either
> > > > > > > > > 1.0.2
> > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.1.1, so needs its own JNA class. In
> particular
> > > it looks like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ENGINE_load_rdrand is not present, nor is
> > > OpenSSL_version_num;
> > > > > > > > > > > 1.0.2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has the former only, and 1.1.1 has the latter
> only.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This makes it hard to support JNA with the
> current
> > > design.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would require another
> OpenSsl<version>NativeJna
> > > class, and
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > parent class OpenSslNativeJna would need to use
> > > yet another
> > > > > > > > > > > condition
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in each of its methods.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is quite tedious and error-prone.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems to me it would be better to use something
> > > like a set of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > singleton classes that implement the required
> > > methods. The
> > > > > > > > > > > appropriate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one can then be initialised and used by
> > > OpenSslNativeJna to
> > > > > > > > > field
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actual methods. i.e. replace the conditional
> logic
> > > with a
> > > > > > > > > static
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reference to the correct API interface
> instance.
> > > This should
> > > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > affect non-public classes.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any other suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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