On 2024/06/12 22:25:29 sebb wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 18:58, Gary D. Gregory <ggreg...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 2024/06/12 17:17:24 Phil Steitz wrote:
> 
> > > +1
> > > I have had to filter out most of the messages and once I do that, there is
> > > almost no actual discussion on-list.  I am worried that when people do try
> > > to start discussion, the messages are being missed.  I personally see the
> > > lack of ml discussion as a problem.  Lots of code changes are happening
> > > with no discussion, other than maybe random nits on PRs ending up in 
> > > github
> > > threads that don't end up organized that well in list archives.  This
> > > problem is not unique to Commons.
> >
> > Hi Phil,
> >
> > We had a discussion a while back about creating a "bot" email list but:
> > - no one actually proposed anything concrete and did any work
> 
> That's not strictly true.
> There were various suggestions (e.g. run dependabot less frequently,

We run it once a week which feels to me like the sweet spot. We _used to_, like 
Log4j does, run it once a day.

> or only on demand) 

The would defeats one of the purposes of the "bot" part of Dependabot.

but they were shouted down, so no action was taken
> as it would have been vetoed.
> 
> > - we already have bot lists like "commit", "notifications", "issues", can't 
> > we reuse those?
> 
> That is part of the problem: the commits list is overrun with
> dependabot commits.

I don't know what you are proposing here, a new list called "gitbot"?

Gary

> 
> > - I don't know if GitHub lets us configure target emails for "I created a 
> > PR" (or someone commented on a PR), vs. other types of messages.
> 
> > Gary
> >
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Most if not all of our increasing contributions are coming in
> > > > > through GitHub pull requests. This is working well for us: GitHub PRs
> > > > with
> > > > > continuous integration builds providing great infrastructure and
> > > > validation of
> > > > > PRs and the existing code base. The flip side is that the increase in
> > > > GitHub
> > > > > usage is matched by a decrease in Jira usage.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary
> > > > >
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