On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 at 01:58, Xeno Amess <xenoam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > AFAICT the same problem does not apply to VFS, which is a multi-module
> project.
> because vfs has its all modules snapshot on snapshot repository (

As an experiment, I tried changing the snapshot version to
2.10.99-SNAPSHOT, which does not exist.

I removed all existing vfs artifacts from the local Maven repo.

I then ran:

$ mvn clean
$ mvn dependency:tree

This worked OK.

So it does not appear to always be necessary to have snapshots available.

The local repo now contains

org/apache/commons/commons-vfs2/2.10.99-SNAPSHOT/resolver-status.properties

but no other files.

Something else is happening with weaver.


> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/commons/)
> (though might be older version content but version number is correct)
> but weaver missing some modules(maybe newly added modules)
> see:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/commons/
> org.apache.commons:commons-weaver-privilizer:jar:2.1-SNAPSHOT
> org.apache.commons:commons-weaver-normalizer:jar:2.1-SNAPSHOT
> be missing...
>
> so, don't depend on it even there be, there might be old ones.
>
> A better solution is to suggest a pr onto dependency plugin, to make them
> provide a way to tend to use source poms, not ones in repo, but that need
> time... I might arrange some time to see if it possible
> a more simple solution is, as Gary pointed out, just play a install before
> the dependency plugin invoke...
>
> Xeno Amess <xenoam...@gmail.com> 于2025年2月13日周四 09:33写道:
>
> > will have a look when I have time.
> >
> > sebb <seb...@gmail.com> 于2025年2月13日周四 07:47写道:
> >
> >> On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 at 22:20, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 17:16 Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 09:57 sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 at 14:07, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Hi All,
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I always use dependency:tree, that always works for me.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> But have you tried it on weaver?
> >> > >> (without previously doing an install)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > I didn't for me, crud. I've got to say that multi-module builds can be
> >> > quite a challenge and I often find myself just doing installs just to
> >> move
> >> > the ball forward.
> >>
> >> AFAICT the same problem does not apply to VFS, which is a multi-module
> >> project.
> >>
> >> I would like to establish whether weaver really does need to be
> >> installed before the dependency check can work, or whether there is a
> >> bug in the setup.
> >> Or maybe it's because weaver has a maven module?
> >> Maybe I need to ask on a Maven mailing list.
> >>
> >> > Gary
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >> > At some point someone set up Jenkins jobs for some of the Commons
> >> > >> > components to publish snapshots, but I never look at Jenkins, I
> >> find it
> >> > >> > unreliable with the regular git errors it seems to throw. I rely on
> >> > >> GitHub,
> >> > >> > that's rock solid.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Jenkins already has the karma to publish snapshots, but I agree it's
> >> > >> harder to use.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Otherwise I push snapshots after I make a change I feel is worth
> >> > >> pushing. I
> >> > >> > just pushed weaver to see if it would help.sure. it blew up the
> >> module
> >> > >> > samples/pom.xml so there is some modernizing to do.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > It's possible to setup GH to push snapshots but that requires
> >> setting up
> >> > >> > secrets and makes the workflows more complex. I think infra might
> >> need
> >> > >> to
> >> > >> > get involved for the secrets part, not aure.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> My point is that it should not be necessary to publish or install
> >> > >> snapshots merely to extract dependencies within a project.
> >> > >> Further, if publication/installation is needed, then one cannot rely
> >> > >> 100% on the output: the poms might have changed since last push.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Gary
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 08:37 Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > Is this saying that not every commons artifact (1) is available
> >> in the
> >> > >> > > snapshot repo (2)?
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Why would some be in the snapshot repo and others not?  Are each
> >> of
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> > > given just not setup to publish snapshots?
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >   1.  https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/commons/
> >> > >> > >   2.  https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> >> > >> > > ________________________________
> >> > >> > > From: Elliotte Rusty Harold <elh...@ibiblio.org>
> >> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2025 7:23:16 AM
> >> > >> > > To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org>
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: [ALL] Maven module expert needed please
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 12:27 AM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > org.apache.commons:commons-weaver-processor:jar:2.1-SNAPSHOT
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > Note that the component is currently at version 2.1-SNAPSHOT.
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > Surely it should not be necessary to build and install the
> >> component
> >> > >> > > > in order to list its dependencies?
> >> > >> > > > Or am I missing something here?
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Yes, it is necessary to build and install the component you
> >> depend on.
> >> > >> > > mvn dependency:list is reading dependencies from the maven
> >> repository,
> >> > >> > > not from the source code. If you haven't installed
> >> > >> > > org.apache.commons:commons-weaver-processor:jar:2.1-SNAPSHOT
> >> locally
> >> > >> > > and it's not available in the central repo (and it probably
> >> isn't)
> >> > >> > > then Maven can't find it.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > The retry resolution can interfere once it's not found, even if
> >> you've
> >> > >> > > since installed it. There's a flag somewhere whose exact syntax I
> >> > >> > > forget to force a retry.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > > Elliotte Rusty Harold
> >> > >> > > elh...@ibiblio.org
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
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