Hi Phil, On 14.11.2025 22:44, Phil Steitz wrote: >> On Nov 14, 2025, at 2:19 PM, Elliotte Rusty Harold <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 8:15 AM Vladimir Sitnikov >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> How much does the release cost? >>> Is $10 enough? Is $50 enough? Is $100 enough? >> >> You'd have to ask someone who has release permissions, but I suspect >> you're off by more than one order of magnitude. And if it's not worth >> that much to anyone, then it's probably not actually all that >> important. > > You guys are both off by a category. Believe it or not, people > actually volunteer here. Unless people who actually do work here > object, I will work on an RC this weekend.
I think Elliotte's point is precisely that people don't work for *free*, but *volunteer* their time. Your work on a release still has a market value. A Logback release is valued at around $1,200 (see [1]), and that number does not seem inflated. I don’t think I’ve ever spent less than four hours on a Log4j release, even with an almost fully automated process. Reviving Commons Lang 2 would be *significantly more* expensive. To be clear, I am not suggesting that users should pay the ASF or its committers for releases. But if commercial users still find Commons Lang 2 in their dependency stack 14 years after the release of Commons Lang 3, they should seriously consider contributing upgrades from Lang 2 to Lang 3 across the OSS projects they rely on. Piotr [1] https://github.com/sponsors/qos-ch?frequency=one-time --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
