On 12/05/2011 22:46, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
Do you really think you will adobe the SO community into the ASF
community?
No, of course not.
I'm referring to the few people who are clearly knowledgeable about ASF
products. Helping others on SO but are not, for whatever reason, engaging
with the ASF projects in question. These people deserve merit in the ASF and
right now they are not getting it.
OK, but how can they earn merit within the ASF? With using the offical
Apache-SO-tags? Sorry, but can you explain how this might work. I have
no imagination (this is not polemic, i really would like to know)
Two possibilities (there are probably many more).
We send an email or SO comment and invite them in so they can work
amongst us and earn merit. Don't assume that they know they can do this,
in my experience most people do not understand this. See Nicks first
email as an example, he reports it has worked for him (patches, bug
reports etc.)
This is my personal preference at this point. The hard part is not
inviting them in, the hard part is identifying them in the first place.
The second approach would be to provide an SO like service or integrate
SO in our processes in some way. There are huge technical, legal an
cultural barriers to this (like your concerns for example). However,
that does not mean it is impossible. This thread, as I interpret it, is
exploring this possibility.
SO as our user provider? Its not open enough for me. Call me an idiot.
I agree email is lost and oldschool. But a company providing us closed
source tools for such an important topic - no, thanks.
Nobody is suggesting that, at least not in this thread.
In my understanding it was proposed to "allow" PMCs to use SO as
official communication channel. Am I wrong?
That's not how I've interpreted things here. I see people asking "what
if" and "how" questions, but I see no proposals yet. My comment above
was only intended to reassure you that I don't think we are anywhere
near having to address a concrete proposal yet.
Perhaps I should have said "Nobody is suggesting that, at least not in
this thread. If they do I would expect that proposal to address all
concerns raised in this thread, including yours and those previously
expressed on members@. "
Ross
