In addition to reviewing these docs I'd appreciate some oversight on the 
template at 
http://community.apache.org/newcommitter.htmlhttp://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html

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On 27 Jun 2011, at 09:15, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> With some recent emails, it became clear that we may not be giving
> people the right background to PMC nominations/additions. The current
> text is here:
>  http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmc
> 
> There is a fundamental, conceptual change needed in that paragraph.
> The short answer is that PMC members are never "elected", and the
> Board is not "advised" of that election. The Board is the only entity
> that can effect changes in the PMCs of the Foundation.
> 
> And with that, we delegated certain changes to the PMC Chairs back in 2002:
>  
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2002/board_minutes_2002_12_18.txt
> 
> The paragraph properly describes the 72-hour process, but it misses on
> the concept of oversight of the composition of the PMC. That
> composition is reviewed and monitored by the Board.
> 
> This is very similar to PMC Chair "elections". I'm not sure there is a
> documentation issue there, but it falls in line with the above. PMCs
> inform the Board "we'd like $JOHN to be the Chair", and the Board acts
> upon that information. Historically, the Board does tend to honor the
> PMC's wishes for its Chair, but it *has* refused that request in
> certain cases, and placed another in the position.
> 
> I'm at the end of the night, and don't have specific suggestions to
> improve pmc.html (above). I'm hoping the team here can find the right
> test.
> 
> Thanks,
> -g

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